Muhammad Ali v Usyk..

Ran into a nutcase who implied Wilder's résumé wasn't shocking.

 

yet Ali ko’d foreman. Someone who Briggs, Morrison Holyfield couldnt in his mid forties l?

usyk squeezed by briedis 7-5, a draw could have been fair. (good fighter mind you)

he couldn’t legit stop chazz Witherspoon. He was losing on the cards to fat semi retired bellew who had $ signs in his eyes.

He won’t win a heavyweight strap, I guarantee it. He’s 33, next fight against chisora at some point. Looking at his first shot at the belts 35/36 realistically.

And Ali was stripped of 4 years of his prime. And btw, I’m no historical, better back in the day fetishist. There’s only a select few from the 70s that could be champ now. Ali is one of them.

 

The ref stopped Cooper, let's be real here, Enry would've kept fighting (and losing) till the final bell.
He would've gave Ali hell all night long.

Agree with everything else you said.


Usyk's best weapons are his feet IMO.
Ali had the best footwork of any heavyweight I've ever seen.

Ali dominates an inactive Usyk for 15 rounds.

 

Usyk

 

A top 3 atg and greatest hw of all time against a guy who's never beat anyone of note at Hw? Hmmmm hard decision here.

 

I'm British, Ali outclasses Usyk.

He is definitely bigger.
So were Norton, Foreman and Mathis etc.
He is not better, and I'm sure he'd agree if you ask the man himself.

As other people have mentioned, he is the only man in history who finished George Foreman.
Top guys couldn't knock him out when he was 50.

That's unfair.
The man had Alzheimer's.
I have a friend who is 25, he has early onset Alzheimer's, he's never even done a contact sport in his life.
I'm not saying boxing had nothing to do with Ali's condition, but it could've happened without boxing, so judging his defense by his condition isn't fair.

Alzheimer's isn't the same as CTE, you can genetically predisposed to Alzheimer's.

 

This is another disrespectful post.

 

Usyk beats all of prime Ali's opposition, that version of Liston too. Think about it, this is a good match up unless you believe Ali was super human

 

Hes not the best in history in a lot of peoples minds h2h definitely not

Ali had major problems with leftys, Mildenberg who wasn't a patch on Usyk was a frustrating nights work. Until Usyk shows a weakness in his chin that result isn't on the table imo

 

Why ?? Is he not just a boxer, are we not just talking boxing match ups. Ali is the same size maybe smaller than Usyk, Usyk is regarded as 1 or 2 all time at Cruiser, its a great match up, wtf is disrespectful ?? Your putting him on a level no boxer deserves to be on, godlike, untouchable

 

Having one fight at Heavyweight is definitely better than fighting Ortiz x2, Stiverne x2, Fury x2, Arreola, Scott...etc. You can't run into anything without falling flat on your face, "mate".

 

He probably won’t even beat Dereck Chisora.

 

come on man, you think Usyk wouldn’t cop a single loss to Ali’s opposition? Gotta keep it real

 

Yes, beating Briedis, Gassiev, Bellew, Hunter, Glowacki ect. along with his insanely deep amateur background is better than losing to Fury in the first fight, getting polaxed in the second and looking like **** against no-hopers for his entire title reign.

You can't open your mouth without sounding like a dick. Especially when you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

I’m a fury man. I would love for wilder to have a better resume for selfish reasons.

but usyks absolutely makes a mockery of wilders. Especially as he’s only had what 17 fights?

Wilder has a better record at heavyweight I guess. Lol.