Muhammad Ali versus Andrew Golota

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  1. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Muhammad Ali wins by the never before heard of "No Doubt" decision.
     
  2. El Matador

    El Matador Your Boxing Authority Full Member

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    Post-1970 Ali would still stop Golota, but later in the fight. Ali's hand speed was still sufficient to bother Golota physically and mentally.

    Two scenarios:

    1.) Ali begins fast, moving and slipping punches, landing pot shots as Golota stalks. Every once in a while Golota lands his jab, but not much else. As the fight progresses, Golota lands more as Ali becomes less mobile, but in exchange, Ali lands nearly at will, as Golota's hands were always to high up (very European). Ali finally ends it with a flurry of unanswered punchers in the eleventh or so.

    2. Let's say Golota doesn't break down (unlikely considering Golota's shameless performances against Bowe twice and Tyson, and another Polish guy whose name escapes me). Golota will be able to land the jab, but Ali's flurries win the judges attention for the majority of the rounds. With the fight slightly in Ali's favor by the eighth or ninth, Ali begins pulling ahead, as he was the better conditioned athlete. Ali wins a unanimous decision in a pretty good one, in this case.

    Either way, Ali was named "The Greatest" for a reason.

    Conversely, Golota was named "The Foul Pole" for a reason as well.
     
  3. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Let's see, would I take the mentally strongest heavyweight of the seventies or one of the mentally weakest heavyweight of the nineties...
     
  4. Borincano

    Borincano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I did not know Ali fought Michael Spinks. You probably meant Neon Leon. You guys are talking about the 1971 Ali. You threw out all those names and they are all after this year for the exception of Joe. Although Joe beat him, Ali was inactive for three years and comes back to blowout Quarry in three and then fights Bonavena for fifteen rounds. As far as getting knocked on his ass, he got up immediately and continued. Ali was the greatest, but no one is saying he could walk on water. Golota has some skills, but not enough to ever beat Ali. His best fights were with Bowe and Bowe was already finished. Maybe he might get his last shot at Peter. Ali overrated!!! Wow.
     
  5. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And I like your avatar.:good
     
  6. El Matador

    El Matador Your Boxing Authority Full Member

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    Golota doesn't land a thing against Ali, post-1970 or not. And saying that he was prone to cutting/being hit against bigger fighters is pure nonsense, as he did fairly well after his "exhile" against bigger men quite frequently, including George Foreman ('78!), Ron Lyle, Earnie Shavers (a tougher challenge, no doubt), and even Bonavena and Quarry come to mind.

    His ring savvy and speed would discourage Golota and keep him at bay round after round, and eventually, Golota loses, probably a decision if your taking post-70 Ali (and depending on Golta's mindset).
     
  7. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks for the correction. LEON! I watched that fight live & was crying at the end. I couldn't believe the ass whopping Leon put on him. I said no freakin way in hell do they hand this one to Ali.

    They didn't. They couldn't.

    (((((((GO LEON))))))):D
     
  8. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali, yes...C. Clay, no.
     
  9. Slothrop

    Slothrop Boxing Junkie banned

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    Golota KO1, assuming Ali has the balls to walk out to the ring, which is giving him a lot of credit in this fight.
     
  10. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I assume your thinking Ali remembers the rough one he had against the Pole in the Olympics?
     
  11. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Golota would start crying and eating his own feet at the weigh in, before Ali even says anything.
     
  12. El Matador

    El Matador Your Boxing Authority Full Member

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    Exactly. Ali-Golota is just not a good match-up. Anyone remember Ali-Bonavena?:vonnecunt
     
  13. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Since we're into the hyperbole a bit, i'll go out on a limb (but not that far) and say:

    The present version of Ali might beat prime Andrew.
     
  14. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All the fighters that significantly troubled him either fought him when he was past it/shot, or they were top 10 all time great heavy's, or both. So, sorry, but your points are not valid.
     
  15. cpnasty

    cpnasty Fight Fan 83 Full Member

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    Ali would beat him easily