Muhammad Ali vs Bruce Lee

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  1. JohnThomas1

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    Such an incredible movie, maybe my favorite ever. Took a second viewing for me to appreciate and, well, there's been about 7 more viewings since hahaha
     
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  2. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I knew there was a different name for those lights. Couldn't remember what it was....
     
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  3. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    Bruce Lee is the equivalent of a guy going to a cardio gym, except that cardio gym teaches kung fu instead of boxing.

    People saying "boxers lost to martial artists at the time" are completely misrepresenting what happened.

    1. They lost to people who knew actually useful martial arts, such as BJJ, wrestling, judo and Muay Thai.
    2. They were the same size as the people they lost to.
    3. They fought martial artists who actually competed and proved themselves.

    If you want to see a boxer fight a kung fu fighter, look it up on Youtube. Boxers win 95%+ of times. The vast majority of kung fu styles are not legitimate, and Bruce Lee was not a legitimate fighter even within the scope of kung fu.
     
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  4. Pugguy

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    I get the same effect with music. Perhaps because quality work is so multi faceted and fresh. You pick up some positive features first time around but it takes several viewings or listenings to let it all sink in and then it becomes an absolute keeper for rewatching or re-listening.
     
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  5. JohnThomas1

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    Would you believe i am that way with music? I virtually never click with a song right up. It takes time to sink in for me where as most people i know realise straight up if they like a choon or not.
     
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  6. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Combat sports enthusiast Full Member

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    Exactly, Lee was far beyond a cardio boxer but yes his strength was as much his mind than anything. People think Bruce's concepts of fighting were just what they saw in his films. He had a great mind for combat and the main principle of Jeet Kune Do was to only focus on what worked in a fight and disregard what didn't, which put him at odds with traditional chinese martial arts like Wing Chun.

    He had great respect for boxing for that reason.
     
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  7. Freddy Benson.

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    It does not go - Muhammad Ali wins conclusively, as Lee himself said.
     
  8. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Both have great footwork:
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    from this moment until the end of the fight (I know it's a movie, but Bruce has good movement).
     
  9. BigManTony

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    I favor every single heavyweight champion by stoppage over Bruce, in any environment.
    Forget the massive size difference. While a great student of martial arts, Lees record of 0-0 in any combat sport is a clear detriment. You can hit a heavy-bag all day but it will never hit back.
    Tommy Burns would knock him out within 3.
     
  10. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Here you can see how bad information (disinformation) can go:
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    Mohammad Ali weight 260 pounds :D