Muhammad Ali vs Derek Chisora

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  1. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    look dude, you calling a man who took Olympic gold and unified all the titles undefeated as nothing special. He had pretty much done what Ali did up to that fight with him.

    whats special to you?
     
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  2. Brydie

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    Vitali or Lewis the best H2H heavy ever.

    Lewis or Wlad is the greatest heavy ever.
     
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  3. George Crowcroft

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    Frazier destroys Byrd...
     
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  4. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    Lennox Lewis and Wladimir Klitschko don't even rate themselves as the greatest ever.
     
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  5. Brydie

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    Audley Harrison won Olympic Gold.

    Frazier was a very good heavyweight, but he would be Chisora level if he competed today.
     
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  6. HerolGee

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    ah i get you, you are a klitchko groupie.

    no more explanation needed.
     
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  7. Brydie

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    Bryd beats Frazier 8 times out of 10.
     
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  8. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Lol, start a thread on that and we'll see.

    I'm a big Byrd fan, but no. Byrd would be lucky to win 1 in 10
     
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  9. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    you've not presented an argument for what you want to claim.
     
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  10. SeanK

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    yes and just like Joe, Audley was a champion and took an ATGs undefeated record right?
     
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  11. Brydie

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    What's special to me?

    What Wlad did in the late 2000s. What Vitali did in the early 2000s. And what Lewis did for much of the 1990s.

    Those are the three best HWs since the 60s in my opinion. Ali, Holmes and Byrd are in the second bracket.
     
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  12. Brydie

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    All I am saying is that Olympic gold does not mean you are a great pro.

    Frazier was a very good heavyweight, but I don't think he was a great heavyweight. Especially in a head to head sense.
     
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  13. The Morlocks

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    Nothing to slow Joe's Smokin' Byrd has NOTHING to trouble Joe. Byrd would be lucky to survive 1 ROUND in 10 fights vs Frazier. Get real people.
     
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  14. Richmondpete

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    Wlad and vitali beat a bunch of tomato cans
     
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  15. Brydie

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    ????

    Wlad beat Haye, Byrd x2, and Povetkin.

    Vitali beat Chisora and Sanders.

    Wlad had the better resume. Vitali was, in my view, the better boxer.
     
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