Muhammad Ali vs. Duane Bobick (Signed, Sealed, But Not Delivered)

I think Ali would have easily handled Bobick in 1977 and stopped him. Too many clean right hands, even from a faded Ali, would have been too much for Bobick.

Bobick, as was his wont, would have frozen in such a big fight. He would have been a sitting duck for any punch Ali threw. For his part, Ali would have taken the fight seriously and trained appropriately. No way would he let a "Great White Hope" threaten his title.

As hard as it is to believe now, Bobick was actually regarded as a solid prospect back then. He was a big strong guy who had a rep for strength, decent boxing skills and some punching power. Ali would have taken him a lot more seriously than he did the likes of Evangelista, Jean-Pierre Coopman or Leon Spinks. He was content to clown his way through those fights but would have wanted to be impressive for a fight the whole world would be watching.

Bobick would have been totally psyched out and done even worse than Cooney did against Holmes. Ali-Bobick would have been a total mismatch.

 

Newcomers to boxing history?? You have too high opinion of yourself. Ali had long break agianst Cooper, Dundee said so many times, was Dundee lying for---Cooper? Doug Jones was a club fighter, don't over hype him--and Madison Garden Crowd booed that decision heavily. Norton got robbed not once, but twice. 3rd fight was bigger robbery than second one.

 

You finding a way to score the second fight for Norton when he dropped the first six rounds shows your bias against Ali clear as day.

Jones was a contender. Look at the record, read the papers, etc.

Watch the footage. Doesn't matter what Dundee said, we have proof.

Class dismissed.

 

Dundee's comments are very important to consider. Norton's second Ali fight dew controversy from many people, including Ali supporters who covered boxing--were they biased?

Doug Jones was not a heavyweight contender, he was supposed to be an easy win/test for Ali.

 

Jones lost 4 of 6 going into Ali fight--a contender? You're an idiot.

 

Doug Jones was a good fighter , not a clubfighter , whom was yet unstopped by d time he fought Ali . However Ali failed 2 beat him despite being much bigger .

Because of his (lack of) size , but he was a quality fighter , d best opponent up 2 that point 4d then 17-0 Ali .

He lost 3 , even that on paper , and had a paper draw in Germany against a German fighter . 1 of them 3 out of 6 paper losses was a very close decision loss that Jones later (4 months later in that same year and still prior 2 his fight against Ali) avenged by KO in 1 of his next 2 wins .

 

When I watched that fight in d 1st time I didn't know who Ali was nor did I ever understand d hype about Ali after watching that fight . I think it was d 1st time I watched n Ali fight in its entirety or close 2 it and since then i know that every1 who praises Ali while dismissing or denying his performance in d Jones fight is either extremely ignorant (like most of d General Forum stooges and some of d clowns here) , extremely biased (I noticed that 4 some reasons Ali , Hopkins , Floyd Mayweather and 2 a lesser extent but still Mike Tyson and Roid Jones Jr. as well r idols 4 Afro American and Muslim Americans especially) while many others like Holyfield , Toney , Foreman , McCall , Byrd and Brewster r not ) , or , just have some personal interest in enhancing Ali's forged Legacy like Angelo Dundee (Bokaj until Dundee died) and his son (Stevie G) , Don King and probably a few Ali relatives , etc .
Ali did not beat Doug Jones and d only time that i scored their fight I tried 2 score it as much as i could in favor of Ali 2 know if that decision could b regarded legit and i had it a draw .
Ali got n enhanced break after Henry Cooper knocked him down in which he was received smelling salts illegally and d cause 2d break itself was illegal , it was Dundee whom made sure Ali's glove was either initially torn and then expanded d tear so he could have n excuse 2 give his fighter extra time 2 recover . I don't acknowledge winning due 2 cuts anyway .
Your post is full of mistakes , either deliberate or not and claiming that your motive is d care 4 d beginners' education doesn't take anything from this fact .
My recommendation both 4u and 4 d beginners is 2 read this thread :
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=347452
and 2 keep any reservations against my arguments in that thread 2 keep it organized and not distract other threads .

 

Very enjoyable and informative thread,Pepe :good

 

I certainly agree about Bobick's defense. It seemed like he was never taught some of the fundamentals.

 

Who, like Ali and Angelo Dundee?

 

Muhammad definitely had a good break in that fight with 'Enery. Many fighters have rode on the tails of good fortune at some time or other,though.