Muhammad Ali vs Jerry Quarry I

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  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Just watched this fight for the first time in DVD quality, and I must say, I felt Muhammad Ali looked terrific in 1970 after the exile. It was almost as if he'd never left, his hand speed was still incredible, and he was on his toes pumping out the jab into Quarry's face until the cut ended proceedings prematurely. Who knows what would have happened if the fight went on longer to test Ali's stamina, but he looked wonderful in his first fight back, which must have been a great surprise to the likes of Cus D'mato.
     
  2. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    Yeah, Quarry was a good pick for a comeback opponent. A big name made to order for Ali... and he was white!
     
  3. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes,Muhammad certainly hit the ground running with his comeback. Apart from Joe Frazier,himself,Quarry was probably the toughest fight for Ali out there at the time. No soft Pete McNeeley types for The Greatest. If it had n't been for Quarry's cut,it could well have gone the distance,at this point. Muhammad was a lot sharper,obviously,for the second go with Jerry two years later.
     
  4. Stevie G

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    :lol:
     
  5. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    Agree 100%. Shame the Ali lovers on here don't view it so dispassionately.
     
  6. PetethePrince

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    Probably because its not true.
     
  7. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    I thought Ali showed good speed. But his sharpness in timing was no where near where it needed to be. I thought he looked way more uncomfortable and awkward upon the little pressure Quarry brought, even though he managed distance and was beating Quarry... he still got hit or looked way more ungraceful than ever before. His feet to me seemed heavier, even if he tried to move with all the same guile. Who knows what the cut would've shown, but when Ali faced a more pressuring awkward fighter in Bonavena we learn his timing was no where near where it needed to be. He looked his worse ever and as Lyle points out people where "Getting to Ali." His reflexes weren't a life line anymore, especially without the needed sharpness.

    If anyone can honestly watch the Folley fight and then Quarry fight and honestly think Ali looks like he's retained 90% of what he had (Not in speed, but in timing, sharpness, EVERYTHING) than I'm blown away.
     
  8. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Ironic considering Folley hits Ali more than Quarry does? :huh Never understood why people point out that fight as one of Ali's best showings.
     
  9. McGrain

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    Yep, he looked plenty good.
     
  10. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Because he was at his best, or nearest to his best. I'm not sure about your claim, at least in clean shots. Either way one is a 7 round fight versus a 3 round fight. Ali was so damn good he was basically playing and treating Folley like a sparring session. Huge contrast between the Folley and Quarry fight.
     
  11. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I'll have to rewatch the Folley fight but I remember Ali getting tagged a lot in that one.
     
  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Folley did do well for the first five or six rounds versus Ali.
     
  13. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Whereas Quarry didn't really do well for any minute let alone round in this one. I'm not sure if Ali actually took a clean shot for the whole duration of the contest.
     
  14. McGrain

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    Who do we think is better out of Folley and Quarry?
     
  15. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Couldn't begin to tell you. I've seen nothing of Foley outside of his fight with Muhammad Ali. Quarry has always impressed me though, I think he'd be a hell of a fighter in any era.