Muhammad Ali vs Mike Tyson

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Dance84, Dec 1, 2019 at 12:14 PM.


Who wins

  1. Ali on Points

  2. Ali by Knockout

  3. Tyson on Points

  4. Tyson by Knockout

  5. Draw

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  1. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Who would win this match up ? Prime per Prime . i think a prime mike tyson would come out charging with his speed and trouble ali who would not have enough power to keep him off . usually with tyson outboxing him wasnt the key you had to outbox him and be a way bigger guy with enough power to keep honest or you had to muscle him and stand in the ring toe to toe . which is why foreman is the only heavyweight from the ali era doing that and maybe beating tyson
     
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft The Cincinnati Cobra Full Member

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  3. Flash24

    Flash24 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've run this fight in my mind a thousand times and 75-80 % of the times Ali wins. And I believe he beats Tyson before they step into the ring, Like Liston and Foreman. Tyson had the tools to give Ali hell if not beat him outright. I've never questioned Tyson's physical ability to beat Ali but his mental ability. Better yet his mental stability.
    The reason I personally don't place Tyson in the top 5-9 Heavyweights in history is the question of his mental stability. He never faced anyone that was a real serious threat too beat him in his prime. Most fighters he faced were beaten well before they stepped into the ring with him. He psychologically imposed his will well before the opponents stepped into the ring.
    But how would he handle bigger stronger bullies like, Liston or Foreman or even prime Bowe Fighters with unbreakable wills like Frazier and Ali or Holyfield.
    Based on his history not very well. Tyson had the physical ability to be the absolute GOAT at Heavyweight. But his mental stability drops him way down. And that's the key ingredient he's missing on being the ATG.
    Ali would torment Tyson before the fight. Call him names, poke fun at his looks and ability. He would make Tyson doubt himself . And if one doubts themselves, especially against a fighter that's supremely confident and physically ready to fight that fighter loses most of the time.
    Ali wins the psychological warfare, that would lead to Tyson fighting with doubt, and that would lead to Ali winning by late stoppage. And still the Greatest of all time..
     
  4. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Addict Full Member

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  5. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster Idealism must not be staunched by safety Full Member

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  6. Fergy

    Fergy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ohh the old Tyson v Ali, much blood has been chucked about over this match-up!
    I see a Douglas V Tyson type fight with Ali stopping an half blind Mike around 11 rounds. Maybe a little closer with peak Tyson but Ali still has the upper hand.
    Muhammed to game, to tough, to confident to lose imo.
     
  7. langdell

    langdell New Member Full Member

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    Ali, within 10. Tyson is great, but Ali would get in to his head.
     
  8. quest00

    quest00 New Member Full Member

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    I have voted for Tyson and I have always believed that Tyson was capable of beating Ali. My reasoning is if Frazier could do it, then why couldn't Tyson. Tyson was better in every category with the exception of maybe stamina. Even then its not like he had Ernie Shavers type stamina. In Tysons prime, 87-89ish he stamina was fine. Tyson had two fisted power not just a left hook, blazing hand speed, very good defense, better foot work than Frazier and a better chin. The thing that people loved to say is, "O Ali would get into Tysons head and beat him before the fight even started." Cus d' mato trained Tyson for Ali type styles. If Ali could be dropped by Henry Cooper and Frazier why couldn't Tyson do the same.
     
  9. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster Idealism must not be staunched by safety Full Member

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    :boxing1heresey
     
  10. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    what your forgetting is that in these mythical matches BOTH get to be on their best night. You cant have the mythical beast Prime Mike Tyson without Ali being Prime too
     
  11. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson makes Ali dance too much and give away too many rounds. Tyson UD
     
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  12. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Tyson couldn't handle being hit consistently. Ali would pepper him more each round. I could see Tyson knocking Ali down early but he couldnt finish him.
    Tyson's offense fell off a cliff once he was getting stung. His output went way down, he lost the edge of his aggression. Once Ali has time and room it's all over.
     
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  13. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    He would dance on Tyson's head!
     
  14. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Frazier had the better chin. Bigger heart, tougher mentally, better infighter.
     
  15. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Does anyone make their polls public anymore? Ffs!
     


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