Muhammad Ali vs. Sonny Liston (Special before The 1st Fight)

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  1. The Fighting Yoda

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    I think it's a good documentary with some interesting footage.


    I've found some nuggets of information, that is new to me and like to share my thoughts on it.

    8:20 Cassius Clay vs. Frank Maynard (National A.A.U. Heavyweight Championship 1960)
    I didn't see this bout on boxrec or cyberboxingzone. I think this fight is missing there. Well, maybe it lacks information, like the exact date... Amateur Ali fought usually as a LHW at that time as well and not as a HW (1960 National AAU Championship - Light heavyweight, regarding to boxrec). Anyways, he even seems to have participated in a HW-Tournament as an amateur (Louisville Golden Gloves - heavyweight in 1960, according to boxrec)

    10:00 Muhammad Ali vs. Allen Hudson
    Allen Hudson had a brutal left hook and even knocked Ali down but finally Ali won. Overall, interesting comments from Ali!

    11:40 and around 12:07 (Ali won the olympic gold medal against Pietrzykowski)
    Examples for young Ali's shuffle. Maybe someone knows when he started with the shuffle, if that can be figured out at all? I read somewhere that Jersey Joe Walcott inspired him.

    12:16 Round 4 from Muhammad Ali against George Logan
    I haven't seen this fight on youtube before.

    From 28:23... Snippet from Sonny Liston's amateur fight against Julius Griffin. You can guess what kind of force Liston was as an amateur. Of course, he was still rough around the edges but already a big body puncher.

    31:05 Sonny's typical dry humor.
    "When I fought Roy Harris, I remember a newspaper guy came up to me and says: Aren't you afraid of Roy Harris getting a hometown decision?... and I told the guy if it be a decision, you can give it to Roy Harris"
     
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