Muhammad Ali vs the K2 brothers

I think this is the wrong language. He didn't survive barrages from George. He took them. He was never in trouble, had nothing to survive, he relied on his conditioning and his own strength. If anything, Foreman 'survived' until Ali stopped him. Ali took a beating on his own terms, Foreman got battered that night, I actually think it's a testament to his fortitude that he lasted as long as he did.

Vitali would not whale away like an enraged bull. To calculated. He isn't as heavy handed as George but I think he is as powerful if you see what I mean. People are saying he wasn't a come forward pressure fighter but he WAS a pressure fighter. You couldn't relax against Vitali, couldn't go walk about. He hit hard and often and had a great engine and a great chin. I made a Kenny Norton comparison earlier and it's not as daft as it maybe sounds. Awkward, herky jerky style, unorthodox punches but with a better chin than Kenny had. I could honestly see Vitali setting a high pace, a constant pace and bullying Ali over 12....


...but I can see Ali pre exile gliding around him, peppering him with punches and out hussling him...but Vitali is long, can Ali get inside, get close enough?

Many think this would be a boring fight...but I think the best Vitali v the best Ali would be a great back and forth fight and id not be surprised to see Vitali win...

 

But you think they lose to everyone so.....

 

Haye's speed made it hard to land clean yeah but pretty dominant performance from Wlad.

 

Wlad hits harder than George tho.

 

Low IQ take ^

They're delivery of punch was not the same.

Foreman was looser and threw with more variety. Still a devastating hitter.
If he lined guys up , planted his feet , pulled back and launched punches at stationary targets like Klitschko did , the opponent would probably die.

David Haye simply isn't going 12 rounds without ever being stunned or floored again Foreman.

 

A dominant 12 rounds decision in which Wlad won doing the bare minimum.
Fun fact you wouldn't be aware of. Haye outlanded WK on power punches.
This highlights WK reluctantanc to throw power blows against an opponent who had decent but not great upper body movement.
Now think of Ali who had maybe the best feet in the division

 

Haye was stunned and dropped multiple times against Wlad, lol. And it's obvious Wlad is the harder puncher of the two.

 

Haye going down on his knees in protest to Wlad leaning all over his back isn't a knockdown.
Haye didn't want to end up zombified like Chambers from carrying Wlad on his shoulders for 12 rounds.

Haye was never stunned. The hardest punch landed was by Haye in the 12th.
Wlad was holding on desperately which indicates he was the one stunned the most in that fight.

 

Go watch the fight bootlikcker

 

"Round 12: Ding ding! The two boxers touch gloves, which perhaps proves that the whole trash-talking nonsense was in fact nonsense. Haye tears into Klitschko and rocks him with a huge right, piling into the Ukrainian and flinging another right hook at the side of Klitschko's head. He shoves Haye down, but this time to get a breather, not prove a point. Haye swings wildly again with the two boxers looking extremely tired. The big man's defences are too strong though. Haye's workrate is good but he doesn't land cleanly again and the bell sounds. It will go to the judges. And the fight will go to man who boxed better and was more controlled all night: Wladimir Klitschko"

Klitschko exhausted after 12 rounds in a fight slammed for barely any punches thrown or landed.
He handles Ali no problem !!

 

Watched it multiple times, that's why I'm giving you attention for the fight you watched in your alternate reality. You never dissapoint!

 

Dino is the boxing equivalent of a flat earther when it comes to the Klitschkos.

 

I'm certain prime Ali beats Wlad, Wlad had a great jab and would track Ali down with it, i think Ali would be moving around way more than Haye when he feels Klitschkos power similar to Williamson who made Klitschko think, kept him from setting his feet and throwing the jab as often as when he was more stationary

What's interesting is Steward told Wlad that Williamson would slow down because he can't fight at Alis pace. Just based on the Williamson performance theres no way Klitschko dominates Ali if he beats him, i can't see it, Williamson was 36. Ali would be using more angles and counter punching, doubling the jab, feinting, would keep Wlad more off balance. I think he makes Klitschko look mechanical, Wladimir doesn't throw the left hook against moving targets, he uses the jab and the right cross. Vitalis size milking style, workrate and chin would make him more difficult. Wlad would beat 70s Ali tho. I actually think Wlad has an easier time clearing the 1970s than the 60s because of the absence of Liston and prime Ali. Wlad would beat Foreman and Frazier but Foreman is very dangerous

 

Wlad was too stiff to deal with Ali. Past 74 maybe. Early 70s Ali was still too fast and too agile for Wlad.
Ellis has a great jab as seen here and it's not working. Klitschkos jab only goes in a straight line. If Ali isnt there to be jabbed he isn't there to be hit with the follow up right hand.

This content is protected