Muhammad Ali vs Wladimir Kiltschko

why are you avoiding justifying picking a retired neverman instead of a top contender? explain.

how is it a bad thing to lose to Bruno? explain.

sanders didn't get further than rahman. explain who is avoiding a guy who cant get a title shot whilst prime.... and yet gets picked when retired shot2shyte by wlad.

I cannot explain why given the years he had, he didn't rematch sanders, it doesn't matter one moment whether he fougth vitali first or not, corrie was around for years, and wlad hid in gibbering fear from him.

why not, its supportive of you. Why are you being childish about someone giving support for your arguments?

 

Herolgeek vs dinovelet that's a good s**** between the two most devoted klitchko fans

 

So now Rahman nd McCall was a top contender? You are so delusional.
So a lose no matter vs who is a good thing now ?
And i dont care what you cannot exaplain, the fact is Sander simply drop the Wlad title and decide not to rematch Wlad, but goes against Vitali, simple as that.
You and Dino can cry about Wlad as much as you want i simply wont waste anytime with you, just simply ignores you both.
Or maybe only you, cause atleast Dino is funny with his crying.

 

Ali would be giving up 3" of reach. Just FYI. Ali was also 6'3" .... He's not as small as you think he was.

Add in the fact that Ali would have a clear speed advantage both of hand and of foot, and you have a boxing match on your hands. Not a walk in the park for Wlad, not by any stretch of the imagination.

Ali also had a granite chin. Unfortunately, it was a bit too good. Would have served him better for his health to have taken less punches in his career.


Personally, I think a pre-banned Ali beats Wlad by decision in a 15 round affair. Just IMO.

 

Lennox Lewis, Wladimir and Vitali take care of Ali easily.

 

I watched the Purrity and Brewster losses today; do you suspect Vlad has received "help" to overcome his glaring lack of stamina, too?

 

This isnt a fair fight , i would say that Ali had MUCH more talent then Klit , and if he was trained in this Era he would beat Klit , but if i had a time machine and took klit back to a primed Ali , he would knock his socks off , modern time >> old time , you can see it in ANY sport no matter what you want to imagine.

 

Ask Lennox Lewis & he'll tell you his idol is Muhammad Ali & he is really THE GREATEST of All Time. Lennox is the best HW since Ali though. Both robotic Klitschko's would be made to look foolish by Ali. Just look at how a barely 80% ready Lennox TKO'd Vitali. Imagine what a 100% Lennox would do let alone Ali

 

I was at that fight as a kid. Yes Ali got dropped by one of the best left hooks in boxing Henry called it Enery's Ammer. Yes Angelo did give Ali extra time by good corner work he did nothing illegal. A different Ali came out for the 5th round he cut Henry's face to shreds

 

Theres no bigger Ali fan than me BUT Ali was probably saved by the bell. Thay left hook was a BOMB!!! There was a delay but even so Ali showed remarkable recovery powers. If that punch had landed a minute earlier I think history would have been re written

 

Wlad being bigger matters a lot more in this HW era because his competition is seriously limited and Wlad has a weak chin. Shave a few inches of height and reach off Wlad and even though he would still be the most skilled heavyweight in this era, he would be getting tagged a lot more which would lead to losses due to his lacking punch resistance.

And Ali's speed and style negates Wlad's size. The guy couldn't put hands on David Haye, who is not as fast as prime Ali of hand or foot, and unlike Haye, Ali will actually throw a solid volume of punches in combination. Wlad's robotic headhunting jab and grab low volume style doesn't work here because Ali can actually beat Wlad on the outside with his speed.

 

You should stop posting. Sport and combat sport are different things entirely.
And you can absolutely not see 'modern time>> old time' in combat sports.

From boxing to Muay Thai to jiu-jitsu to fencing to martial artists - all the greatest of those categories existed in yester year. 100s of years ago if you count fencing , which compares more to boxing than track running , which casual know nothings like you sprout stupid over and over.

 

Saved by the bell? He was up at 3 lol. Ali has shown many times how hurt he was early and in the middle of the round only to finish on his feet. His recuperative powers were legendary. He knew what to do when Hearns and many others didn't. That's a part of Ali's legend.

 

Being out of the ring for almost 4 years was the killer. The dancing machine was gone after 1970.

 

Well of course they do,because they're all BIG!.:roll: