Muhammad Ali vs Wladimir Kiltschko

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  1. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    andre the giant and peter crouch can be added to that list then.

    not the actual big boxers who got destroyed by ali though (eg Big Ernie Terrell, RIP). pray the klitaard actually don't use real life events for their predictions.
     
  2. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly, they had to use ILLEGAL moves to even give ali enough time to remember what planet he was on.

    And all this, for a arm punch from a walking stick :patsch

    Cooper would get SLAUGHTERED by today's light heavyweights, who weights like him but are much more fit, fast, and powerful :!:
     
  3. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not the one that considers Cooper's body as a good big one... you must have some low standards in front of you :lol: :smooch
     
  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    :nut:rofl

    At least they didn't have to fight with their torso like Clinchko has to.
     
  5. RememberingC.S.

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    Exactly, that's a crucial point, because it's a paradox: if Wlad wins only because he has "a huge size advantage" over 6'3 ripped to shreds fighters, the why wouldn't he had that "huge size advantage" over 6'3 fat out of shape, slow and objectively featherfisted Ali? Coherence, that unknown thing.
     
  6. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And an out of shape super mw, Cooper was no Andre Ward.

    But it gets worse than this.

    Ali fought Archie Moore, who started his career as a light welterweight. That's right, 140 lbs!
     
  7. HerolGee

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    how is it getting worse to on your way up to contention fight and destroy the greatest light heavyweight ever?

    its not the same as SHW vitali getting destroyed by titlist chris byrd who once fought as a LIGHT welter. that's how you would define as "getting worse".

    wooah - kliittaard destroys his own points. awesome.
     
  8. Warwick Hunt

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    It's hard to imagine that anyone could possibly have less knowledge.
     
  9. Typhoon

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    Ali was more skilled, more flamboyant but Wlad is too big... I know many don't want to accept that Wlad can beat Ali but i would put money on Wlad. Wlad is a super heavyweight and belongs in a different division. He's usually too big for his opponents.. he's also quite skilled for his size. Wlad's chin is still suspect but he's made it hard for people to hit him as he has been fighting much smarter since his last loss. Ali wasn't known for a heavy punch so he would've had to dance around the ring and avoid Wlad. He could've pulled it off but i see it as a difficult fight..Wlad would hurt him.
     
  10. BlizzyBlizz

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    LOL...:lol:
     
  11. Good Cop

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    Mr. Ears, your information regarding different "certain" groups and their motives has been a tremendous help to us as we unravel the twisted nature of certain fighters and the motives behind their tyranny.

    To help the victims of people like Mr. Klitschko and Mr. Triple G, we need to first understand them and why a few ruthless monsters in the boxing world would ever want to target them.

    You've done us all a great service :patriot
     
  12. TerryESB

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    Old time fans can't have it both ways!

    Tyson Fury beats 6'2 245 lbs Christian Hammer they say he is too small of a Heavyweight. Fury beats 6'1 240 lbs Dereck Chisora , he is too small. And Fury gets no credit because of their size.

    But then they claim size doesnt matter (but only for) old timers 5'11 195 Joe Frazier, 6'1 195 Joe Louis, 212 lbs Larry Holmes, etc would destroy Wlad, Fury, Lewis etc.
     
  13. HerolGee

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    they don't claim either, its just you wanting them to so that YOU can claim one-upmanship on them over both your failed points.
     
  14. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly. Haters should just pick one side. Does size matter, or not? And deal with the consequences.

    But they don't want to, because they want to always twist arguments like they prefer to hate.
     
  15. Warwick Hunt

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    Well put it this way then,forget size particularily the ones who says Ali's too small to beat Wlad who's the greater fighter Ali or Wlad?
    Who's the greater fighter Wlad or Sugar Ray Robinson? Wlad or Roberto Duran?