Muhammad Ali's Real Record

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  1. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I disagree with many decisions. That's a far cry from stating they should be reversed or more losses should be attached to a fighters record! Ali like many hwt champions won a few close bouts. Winning close bout does not invalidate the official decision no matter who the fighter is. There is no evidence whatsoever that any official in either of these two bouts were corrupt or that they were paid off to favor one fighter over the other. It's 2016...grow up.
     
  2. Pintor

    Pintor New Member Full Member

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    Ok, who was a better HW than Ali?
     
  3. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Total nonsense...
     
  4. Bulawayo

    Bulawayo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joe Louis
     
  5. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    We should take this thread out back and shoot it.
     
  6. Bullet

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    What ?
     
  7. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    A case can be made that he should have lost the following fights... I wouldn't call them robberies though.

    Doug Jones (close)
    Henry Cooper I (Ali was hurt, Dundee opened up a small tear on Ali's glove to get him more time to recover)
    Jimmy Young (close)
    Ken Norton III (ok, this one was a robbery)

    Some have even said-

    Ken Norton II (close)
    Ernie Shavers (close)

    I disagree with these two .

    Ali did lose to Frazier, Norton, L. Spinks, Holmes, and Berbick.
     
  8. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    This comes up a lot. Had Ali used this tactic he would have been celebrated for his tremendous ring IQ. Anyway regardless Young won the fight by a mile.
     
  9. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Silly comment only an Ali hater would make. No one applauds trying to leave the ring in the middle of a hwt championship fight. Young did so and that tactic combined with his refusal to engage the champion is the reason he lost. Young COULD HAVE won that night but it just was not within him to fight aggressively or even to fight very hard. Truely a safety first fighter and those type fighters are generally not looked upon favorably by judges. I say this as his biggest fan back in the 70's. Cheered for him in his every fight. However he was what he was.
     
  10. BillB

    BillB Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Here's the "Ali Hater" lingo again.

    See my post here:
    http://www.boxingforum24.com/showpost.php?p=17751862&postcount=207

    Perry's got it bad.
     
  11. Nighttrain

    Nighttrain 'BOUT IT 'BOUT IT Full Member

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  12. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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