Muhammed Ali and PEDs

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  1. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot El gran campeón Mexicano Full Member

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    Sometimes that wakes you up after a ko?
     
  2. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot El gran campeón Mexicano Full Member

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    Don't know if it worked but in the og olimpics people where cheating
     
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  3. xnico

    xnico New Member banned Full Member

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    ”Smelling salts are often used on athletes (particularly boxers) who have been dazed or knocked unconscious to restore consciousness and mental alertness. Smelling salts are now banned in most boxing competitions”

    He had to use PEDs to prevent from getting KOd. Ali Cheated there is no way around it
     
  4. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Smelling salts is not a Ped lol It was legal in US at the time.
    Stop grasping at straws
     
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  5. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So if physicians give patients smelling salts, they are giving them Steroids, that's a howl, an excuse for these Modern Nutrition athletes. They are too lazy to train the manly way, doing good old fashioned conditioning.
     
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  6. xnico

    xnico New Member banned Full Member

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    The fight took place in the UK where it was illegal. OF COURSE ITS A PED, The smelling salts enchanced Ali’s performance against Cooper

    Imagine if AJ got to use smelling salts against Ruiz, he would very likely still be undefeated today
     
  7. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Physicians use them all the time. But Modern Nutrition and Modern Training? They are plain old fashioned Steroids, Nobody can naturally grow to Empire State Building heights naturally, who are you fooling? To grow like that the natural body needs help to do that. I prefer watching the little guys, they are not consumed by height and weight, that is kind of corny.
     
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  8. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Go harass someone else with your silliness
     
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  9. xnico

    xnico New Member banned Full Member

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    LOL I like Ali but you are the one that just can’t accept the truth

    LOL YOU HAVE ALI AS YOUR PROFILE PICTURE OF COURSE YOU WILL DENY EVERYTHING
     
  10. Bokaj

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    Dundee used smelling salts on Ali and apparently they were illegal in the UK. But he did it in full view of everybody and there were never any protests about it, so it doesn't seem to have been a big deal. Never heard anything about Cooper's camp demanded it be a DQ for Ali or even a NC.

    Dundee for his part probably wasn't aware it was illegal in Britain. Don't think he would have used it right in front of the ref if he did.
     
  11. Bokaj

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    He did an examination at the Mayo clinic, I think it was, afterwards and they found traces of Benzendrine. Besides that he he was prescribed Thyrolar. Where the Benzendrine came from is unknown, but that was probably what helped him lose weight but left him drained.
     
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  12. NoNeck

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    The Thyrolar was given without any sort of standard testing.

    "Cardiovascular system: Thyroid hormones increases heart rate, cardiac contractility and cardiac output. They also promote vasodilation, which leads to enhanced blood flow to many organs. "
     
  13. Bokaj

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    Yep. It was the joke of a doctor Herbert Muhammed had assigned to him that made that diagnose all by himself.
     
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  14. C.J.

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    Yes I am an Ali fan. I was lucky enough to have met him & shook hands with him. Was one of the highlights of my years round boxing.
     
  15. Entaowed

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    Mr. Murrieta, no PED can increase height at all.
    The growth plates close in late adolescence, & anyway none can ever lengthen bones.

    Now many folks use PEDs to improve performances, & steroids allow one to recover faster & add much more muscle & strength.
    Although some guys with the right genetics & training get bigger & stronger than those on drugs-unless one proves guilty, or gets bigger than anyone can for their frame, or already muscular quickly add bulk...

    You often cannot tell.
     
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