Muhammud Ali vs. Roy Jones

A better comparison would be Jones vs the Ali Homes fought, but i don't think any of us really want to go there.

 

Prime Roy, was not a heavyweight..

 

Same out come as Ali Foster

 

You're quite the analyst.

 

Speed neutralizes speed.

So now you have a 6' 3" 215 lb, 80 inch reach Ali vs
a 5' 11" 180 lb, 74 inch reach Jones.

Where is Jones going to hide?

 

I was saying comparing it to Ali/Foster is kinda lame, unless he's talking KO at some point.

Honestly though, I believe Roy has a good shot at winning a bout with Ali, at least out of a series, considering he is definitely faster than Ali, and Ali's reflexes and speed were two of the major advantages he had in his prime.

 

I dont think Jones has a chance of beating Ali , i dont particularly like Ali , but no . I dont care about all of Jones' abillity , Ali is one of the absolute greatest ever , i have tried so many times to find reasons why he isnt , but any1 who is being totaly honest with themself knows that he was absolutely briliant . He did plenty of things wrong i know , but he still dominated at the absolute top level . I dont like saying somebody would definitly beat someone else ( because i respect all fighters ) , but i believe this only has one winner . Ali would win this

 

roy only fought ruiz at heavyweight, big deal.

 

If you throw out the use of steroids, James Toney has a better heavyweight resume than Jones.

Jones beat Ruiz, which is good considering he was once a middleweight in his 20's. The only reason I mention age is that some fighters turn pro in their teens, and grow into higher divisions. Jones was not going to grow into the heavyweight class without some effort.

Toney defeated Holyfield and Ruiz, drew with Rahman, and lost a controversial decision to Peter. I never hear people say how remarkable this was. He too, was a former middleweight. He easily trumps Jones heavyweight marks.

Anyway. Neither defeats Ali, unless you are talking the Spinks and after version.

 

There is nothing 'lame' at all with that comparison...Jones was a great middlweight...but in this one, he is fighting a great heavyweight in Ali... The difference in natural strength is huge...Jones is the faster heavyweight that is true, but he is not going to hurt Ali at all with anything he has...Ali takes him out whenever he chooses...problably in 7 rounds...Gross mismatch. No middleweight could ever threaten a great heavyweight, no matter how great that middleweight was.

 

Against a prime (or near prime) Ali, Jones would be well out of his depth. Jones would be smart enough to know this and avoid such a fight.

Jones's chances improve post Manilla Ali, and start to look good at the death rattle stage of Ali's career (Leon Spinks/Holmes/Berbick period Ali)

 

Jones was not a great Middleweight, he was a great Super Middleweight and Light Heavyweight. Ali is the bigger man yes, but the Jones of the Ruiz fight, while smaller, is quicker, and again, Ali relied a lot on his quickness and reflexes to win because he made so many textbook mistakes. Against someone where he doesn't have these advantages, you disagree that it would be a tough fight for him? It's not like Ali was a devastating puncher or pressure fighter, so what path would he take in this fight? Simple questions.

 

H2H Jones is a great middle...gives anyone fits at 160 lbs. A heavyweight punch from Muhammad Ali is more than enough to hurt Jones. Is Jones quicker... yes he is...but against a '73 Ali who was still fast, he could catch Jones. Ali wasn't the type to come out and bowl someone over...It wasn't his style. It's the difference in strength at heavyweight that is the deciding factor...Ali is just so much stronger than Jones. Simple answers.