Mundine and the Super 6

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  1. Francis75

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    Ash, you must be on the windup here mate surely. Kessler may win the super 6 tournament but it certainly won't be easy work for him and Mundine was beaten easily by Kessler in Mundine's backyard and at the time Kessler was a bit of an unknown fighting in his first title fight. Kessler beat Mundine easily enough for Mundine to pathetically give up his "world title" without even making Kessler fight for it in a rematch.

    Anthony would lose to all of the super 6 guys now mate. FFS he just went life and death with Geale at 160. He would lose to all of them and guys like Abraham and Froch would stop him. Either your a windup merchant or you have an unhealthy love for Anthony Mundine. :yep
     
  2. MiracleMan

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    How was it an easy fight for Kessler? he won by 4 rounds. Check Kesslers record. He wins most fights by a shutout and he definetely didn't win this by a shutout. Sure not rematching him was pathetic. But there first fight wasn't easy. And Kessler was coming off a loss. Not the type of guy you would want to fight for little recognition.

    Ward and Dirrell are really unproven. So its Taylor and Froch at super. I would tip him over both Ward and Dirrell.

    He didn't actually go life and death with Geale. He won that fight on my scorecard. He tried to fight the same way as he did in Soliman 3. Hes a counter puncher. He began to counter punch in the last 3 rounds and he won them.
     
  3. Francis75

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    Seriously this is complete nonsense. Kessler beat Mundine by a shutout on one judges card and the other judges had him up by 4 points each. Since when is that not an easy win in the champions backyard. :patsch And how is Anthony not pathetic for throwing away his title in the trash to fight journeymen rather than try and beat Kessler in a rematch.:patschAnd the fight with Geale was life and death for Anthony at his age mate. I also scored it to Mundine but it was damn close and a can understand that some thought that Geale may have deserved the decision.
     
  4. Kegsy

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    I have never been too high on Ward, i would still pick Ward to win a relatively closer fight...but no chance in hell Mundine beats Dirrell.
    Dirrell is friggin huge at 168 & has better skills than Mundine does at this stage of his career. How the hell is Mundine is going to get inside on a guy way bigger than him & at least as quick as he is...its well beyond me.
     
  5. MiracleMan

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    Just because Hank didn't show up on the night, doesn't mean scoring the 12 rounds to Kessler is right. Mundine started and finished well. Kessler was just to powerful in the middle rounds and it set the tone for the fight.

    Mundine beat Geale. The commentary was awful. And so was everyones scoring. Mundine clearly won the last 3 rounds aswell. Geale is good. Saying hes not world class? Well how is Rubio or Lujan Simon world class? Lujan Simon gave Abraham hell in there bout. Also Rubio went 10 with Pavlik, and Rubio barely threw a punch.

    Your to hard on Mundine. Yes ducking Kessler wasn't the right option. But Kessler himself will tell you the fight was hard.

    And for any top 160 or 168 pounder. An in form Mundine is a ***** of a fight.
     
  6. MiracleMan

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    Yeh i might have jumped the gun on Dirrell. I have Dirrell to beat Froch by UD. I have only seen him against Oganov.
     
  7. Kegsy

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    This is a big call from me...but Dirrell has some attributes that remind me of Paul Williams...those insane physical attributes that will cause anyone at 168 huge problems, plus being very busy & quick on the outside.
    Still a work in progress IMO but someone who in a few years could be a star.
     
  8. COULDHAVEBEEN

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    ~ judge: Marcus McDonnell 114-113 | judge: Derek Milham 116-113 | judge: Richard Green 112-115 ~

    That's a close SD to Mundine on the night and it was controversial enough for 3 more judges to be assigned to look at it and vote Mundine 1 and Geale 2.

    So the 6 judges split it Mundine 3 and Geale 3.

    Let's accept two things:
    1/ It was a very, very close fight.
    2/ Neither Mundine nor Geale had anything left in the tank.
     
  9. MiracleMan

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    The fight was close but Mundine clearly won it on my scorecard. The fight got recognized in the US as a terrific action fight, with both fighters showing that they are worthy of good rankings in the division. According to Dan Rafael himself.
     
  10. MiracleMan

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    He is very rangy. Looked super quick against Oganov. Some US fans seem to think hes going to buckle under Frochs pressure. I do think he has the speed and skills to win. But im also not that sure on Froch. Because Froch beat Pascal, and Pascal looked like the best Light heavy in the world against Diaconu. But Pascal was counterpunching against Diaconu and he wanted to trade with Froch, maybe just going against his game plan.
     
  11. Kegsy

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    Yeah i feel the same way actually about him...if he doesnt buckle under the pressure from a Froch type fighter who is a legit top 5 Super Middleweight then sky is the limit really.
    I think he is the dark horse for the whole tournament.
    Someone i would stick clear of if possible.
     
  12. COULDHAVEBEEN

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    All good, but what's being argued above is whether Mundine went life and death with Geale. As the 6 judges couldn't split them (3 either way), and neither fighter had any more to give, it's a no brainer for mine.
     
  13. MiracleMan

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    He went life and death when he was trying to force the fight, Geale did really well. Outworked him. But when he went back to his game plan, which is to counter punch. And would be what he would do against elite fighters, he landed the cleaner shots late.

    Kegsy, your right. Dirrell is brutal. 10 punches in 3 seconds on Oganov. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooMdGA1UimY :admin
     
  14. COULDHAVEBEEN

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    My point is that over the 12 rounds on the night there was nothing between Geale and Mundine. It can be argued that one shaded the other by a narrow margin, but there was very little to nothing between them.
     
  15. Francis75

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    i agree with you guys regarding Dirrell. He is incredibly quick and athletic but completely unproven so it's hard to gauge how the fight with Froch will go. I think Dirrell might have to go to the well once or twice if he is to beat Froch. If forced to make a pick i would go with Froch in England but Froch is not greatly skilled and shouldn't reign for long with his skills and style imo. Dirrell definately has a shot to beat Froch. Can't wait for these fights.