mundine at middleweight

Lack of knowledge to who has beaten, who has Joe beaten...1,2,3 top tier blokes in his almost 50 fight career.

You're deliberately dribbling i can see this

 

Open my eyes please, tell me who Mundine has beaten if im disrespecting "The Man"?

 

You've mistaken me for someone who cares that Mundine is disrespected.


I will dodge your question and ask how will Mundine "make the grade", who does he have to beat now?

 

Bother actually consistantly tracking valid fighters and having valid fights, with a greater aim of competing for a actual real Championship against real fighters.

 

So just fighting greater competition than he has been recently? Fair call as Joe was in the same situation a few years back not fulfilling his potential.

Still think you're taking the **** saying he cant make the grade (unless you're talking about ATG grade).

 

Teke man true Joe did have trouble getting big fights in his career but the likes of prime Lacy ,Reid , Mitcheal , Woodhall (All still prime Current or then recent belt holders ) etc still are all a step up from who Mundine has ever beaten with the exception of maybe Green , add Bika ( Yes i rate Sakio Bika )An unbeaten Kessler and an aging but still dangerous Hopkins to the list and it is truly an impressive record in any reasonable fans opinion , Mundine has had a few disatvantages throughout his career though , Geography and crazed fans paying through the nose to watch him on PPV against less than stella opponents . Mundine needs to go to America now if he's serious about being a proper champ , his mouth has got him into said situation , he needs to fight the likes of AA ,Miranda , Pavlik ,Taylor or Winky ( good luck getting either of the last two ) if he is going to prove his class to the world , Soon we will know if Choc is just in this for the Purse or if e is the real deal .

 

Mundines scared to fight Kessler plain & simple. He knows he was never in the 1st fight, then found out Kessler was only 60% fit. Mundine has shown that he has no heart & no real interest in avenging defeats. Please don't call him a champion, it makes a mockery of the term. He ran to 160 to get away from Kessler & thru his B grade belt away to ensure a fight never happens. Chicken Bowe did it when he avoided Lewis. We now have Chicken Choc!!

 

good post:good

 

truly an impressive record with those fighters - noway way it is for a 50 fight long career.

 

If Choc ends up fighting and beating half the calibre of opponent on Calzaghe's record, he'll have done well. I've said it time and time again, it's been great managing on Khoder's behalf. Maximising reward for little risk. It's made him millions... but sadly, has left his legacy tarnished with the sand running out of the hour glass.

 

Agreed, but you gotta agree that Joes resume is thin compared to other so called greats.

 

True.
It's only been the last couple of years where he's really been cashing in on his talents.

Before the Lacy fight, his resume wasn't that much better than Ottke's. Since then, he's been pretty good though.

 

Yeah there is no doubt that before Lacy, Bika, Kessler (imo his best notch on his resume) and hopkins his record looked pretty poor, but now it doesn't, so who really cares.

It is hard to take pot shots at calzaghe now because even though his record isn't really fitting of an all time great, he is arguably the best super middleweight ever. I hope he picks up another two big fights before the end of his career to genuinely stamp his name down as an ATG, and do his talent justice (which he hasn't done so far imo).

Mundine will never be on that level but i think he can win a genuine title. I can't wait to see how he goes at middleweight but i think it is likely he will fight a bum or two first which is going to be frustrating as it really is his time to stepup.

And people need to stop crying about Choc running from Kessler, who cares? He lost the first fight clearly so it wouldn't exactly be smart of him to fight him again. Since when is it a travesty for boxers to duck fighters, nearly every boxer does. Mundine has a good opportunity now to really make something of his career at middleweight, its up to him now and we be able to make any excuses if he blows it.

 

Agree.

Joe vs Tarver :happy

 

Replace Lacy with Eubank please