Mundine - Just the facts

Mundine is a good fighter - yes

But that doesn't change the "fact" that Nievas isn't at all good enough to be fighting the likes of Mundine at this point - that fight was a joke. And it raises questions on the power of Mundine's punches - I mean this guy has been dropped and stopped by much lesser fighters than Mundine and has never been in a 12 runds fight.

It does not change the "fact" that Mundine is mandatory to Kessler and has been offered the fight twice and declined to fight Nievas!!! - what kind of behavier is that? - scary? or just realistick?

As for Calzaghe-Kessler wanting to fight him after this performance - no and yes. Calzaghe is far beyond Mundine - there is no gain what so ever for Calzaghe in fighting Mundine (not much risk either) - that fight will never happen!
Kessler - well he is mandatory and Kessler has said time and again that he would love to go downunder to fight and beat Mundine again - and he has offered Mundine the fight twice now - Mundine has declined. This fight doesn't change anything Kessler will still want to fight him - and he will beat him - again!

If Mundine wants a real belt he should drop his WBA-paperbelt and go for the IBF-belt.

 

Nievas has been dropped before but never stopped. Mundine's power is not the greatest but he still has decent power and had Nievas hurt a couple of times but didn't finish him off. It's probably more lack of finishing skills but he was fighting in 1st gear for most of that fight if you've seen it.

The IBF belt is no better than the WBA strap Mundine has atm.

 

can you guys please start dropping some names that he should be fighting?

KEEP IN MIND that he can't just fight the same 3 fighters over & over or whatever.

for 5 years winky fought lopsided fights and no one was hangin so much on him!

 

look buddy it dosnt make either mundine or Nievas any better just because u blow hot air into them and there fight:dead he was a total tomatocan and mundine isnt doing himself any favour fighting guys like him!:deal he should be fighting top 5 guys! if he meens buisness!

 

Guys like... some names please?

 

Joe Calzaghe Mikkel Kessler Librado Andrade Robert Stieglitz Lucien Bute Jeff Lacy Denis Inkin Carl Froch Jean Paul Mendy Mario Veit Jürgen Brähmer Vitali Tsypko Anthony Hanshaw David Gogiya Mger Mkrtchian Jackson Chanet Victor Oganov Alejandro Berrio Sakio Bika

Are those enough names?

All would imo. be approved fights for Mundine.

 

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

So.. does everyone agree that if Mundines next fight was against Bika.. everyone would be happy?.. or Tsypko.. or Hanshaw..??

 

yeah - Tsypko - I actually suggested him as the best opponent for Mundine after he beat Soliman. Tsypko fought Lacy twice, their first fight ws stopped on cuts and ruled a draw, and Lacy rematched him after his loss to Calzaghe and struggled to beat him (although Lacy tore his rotator cuff early in the fight). I think Mundine could beat Tsypko and it would be a good scalp on his resume because he could say he handily beat someone Lacy struggled with.

Carl Froch - pommy boxer starting to make a bit of noise on the international scene - would be another good scalp for Mundine.

Dennis Inkin

Andrade - imagine if Mundine dealt with this guy in a more effective manner than Kessler did? It would lay an awesome foundation for a rematch with Kessler, and would give Mundine the confidence he needs to face Kessler again.

Allan Green - I think Mundine could also beat Green quite handily

Lolenga Mocak - this fight was suggested a couple of years ago

Seriously mate - everyone knows the closer you get to the pointy end of the table, the less chance you have of getting fights with the top guys, but Mundine has a plethora of opponents to choose from, and instead feasts (may not be the best choice of words considering his trouble in dispatching Nievas) on bums.

If he would just man up and fight top 10 opponents I'm sure he would gain a hell of a lot more respect.

 

cool. but like i said all fighters do the same thing (like the winky example).

i personally think mundines objective is to fight calzaghe (the pinnacle) when he feels his best. and who would blame him?
his objective was to be undisputed champ, and not just entertain us with even fights.

 

No :nono

To be undisputed champ, you have to beat the man in your division. The man at SMW has yet to be decided between Calzaghe and Kessler - yes, Calzaghe is THE MAN at SMW, but Kessler is so hot on his heels that a unification fight between them is necessary to determine who is THE MAN at SMW.

Until these 2 fight, Mundine will always be #3 at SMW. Until he gets a chance at fighting the winner of JC vs Kess, he will be #3 at SMW. He has to do something worthwhile in the meantime to enforce his presence at SMW.

The problem with Mundine is that he is so terrified of losing his current # 3 rank that he won't fight anyone who presents a risk to him. In fact, he is terrified of ever losing again, full stop.

And I don't think he realises that to be a chance vs the winner of JC vs Kessler, he has to fight some tough opponents.

He also said he was also going to drop down to middleweight and unify there, and moveup to LHW and unify there.

Yes, a lot of fighters speak **** to promote themselves.

But not a lot fighters fight the level of Nievas and **** up instead of delivering a KO finish.

 

yeah well we'll see what he does.

on top of what you're saying, he also needs to get his foot in the door in the us in my opinion.

 

Mate, you asked for some names, you got them.

I've got a question for you - why do you think Mundine hasn't fought in the US yet?

 

exactly:good and mundine isnt gettin any younger so if his goal is to unify mw smw and lhw then he must be in a bit of a hury
if he meens buisness he is going to take on a top fighters or else shot up with his crap:nono

 

You can't be serious about that.:shock: The belt Mundine has now is just a glorified mandatory status whereas the IBF title is one of the Big 3.

 

OK, I'll give it a go:

Calzaghe (Mundine has been offered the fight in UK with options a way back, if I recall correctly it was a shitty offer mainly because of the options, but if he really wanted Calzaghe he could have taken it)

Kessler (Mundine has already had a chance and lost, but he has the right to another shot as mandatory and has been offered the fight, but he declined to fight Nievas stating that "the Man doesn't fight for peanuts.":wall )

Lacy (Granted Lacy is injured right now but when he returns he'll be looking for a quick titleshot that he thinks he might win. A good chance for Mundine to get a good name on his record if you ask me)

Bute (Not sure Bute will be interested in this fight when he most likely become champ though:huh )

Oganov (An overprotected guy with a perfect KO record who also gained all his amateur victories by KO, if Mundine beats him he would definately get more respect than by beating guys like Nievas)

Andrade (A strong guy with an unbelivable chin who keeps attacking for 12 rounds non stop and who is in another league than Nievas)

And I could keep going, what about Froch, Tsypko, Beyer, Berrio, one of the Greens, Braehmer, Inkin a.s.o.?

Edit: Come to think of it, what about a rematch against Siaca, it would still be a lot better than Nievas.