Mundine-Kessler II. How likely?

you are loving this arent you.

 

Why would kessler say the mundine fight was the toughest of his career when he won that one and lost to calzaghe? But i see where your coming from, hope it happens, i'm not a mundine fan, but i respect his skills and just want to see him tested properly to see how good he can be.

 

I just copied that section from another poster on a diff forum.

 

mate i think you will find that choc runs the show and his career has been what he wnated. Kohder might be able to do the deals bt mundine is the one with his own destiny in his hands

 

Yeah i spose as he has said many times that he is da man.

 

plenty of times kohder has told Mundine to keep quiet on a subject only for him to go off. Look at the 2 different comments when Green retired. Nasser and mundine are 2 very different people

 

Let's hope Mundine doesn't experience any sort of epiphany in the lead up to this one, if it happens.

 

http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/green-says-therell-be-no-resurrection-after-his-epiphany/2008/03/25/1206207105734.html?s_cid=rss_sport

 

First off, when it comes to making decisions on who, when and where Choc fights it's not a one man show. Khoder is the business man, responsible for making **** happen and money matters but as far as choosing the fights....don't think so.

Like any fighter Choc has his goals and dreams and has a good idea of who he wants to fight but his old man doesn't want him to doing anything stupid until the time is right. Tony learnt plenty the hard way during his boxing career and like any good father doesn't want his son making the same mistakes. Anthony aint stupid, if his old man feels strongly about any issue then he'd be mad not to listen.

The general feeling is that Choc has made the necessary improvement required to meet any challenge. While he was improving each fight it was most evident during the Soliman fight where he completely dominated Sam to the extent that he rarely took a backwards step, and that was where the problem previously existed.

When Mundine fought Siaca he had real problems when placed under pressure. Lacking the experience that most champions aquire through the amateurs and 4-6 round pro fights early in their careers, Mundine had to learn on the run and run he did. The Siaca fight was the best thing that could have happened to him because by exposing his weakness it forced him to change his mindset as well as his style.

When the Kessler fight came about Anthony had done enough to give a good show but he still had moments where he would retreat under pressure and that's when Kessler would dominate. Those that haven't seen the fight could be excused for thinking Kessler was simply to good but the fight wasn't like that at all. When Mundine stood his ground and threw punches he landed plenty of scoring shots and combinations but he just wasn't ready to put it all together, falling back into the safety of his old style and that was the difference.

That man don't exist anymore. We saw the last of that fighter prior to the Green fight, which wasn't that long ago. Better still is the fact that he has so many more good years left in him that time will vindicate the path he has taken. Simply put, Tony Mundine knows better than most what's best for his son and I know that if I was in the same position I would want to make sure my son was 100% before throwing him into the cauldron. Tony knows that it can all be snatched away within the blink of an eye and boxing at the highest level aint the place to take unnecessary risks, especially when a fighter has his best years in front of him.


Now as for Kessler v Mundine II, not until after the Soliman fight as much as I know. This fight was schedualed after Sam requested the rematch clause be taken up and Choc saw no reason not to considering he couldn't get a big fight until late in the year (Kessler had not made any contact to the Mundine camp prior to the Soliman fight being agreed upon) Waiting until the end of the year before he fought again would have broken his momentum. Now I've said it before and I'll say it again just to be clear on this, I ain't got nothing to do with the goings on inside the Mundine camp and their business discussions and I aint one to say **** that I know aint so (except for the occasional animal fantasy). The simple fact is that unless the WBA threaten to strip Choc of the title he won't be breaking his deal with Soliman. To go even futher I doubt that the WBA would force Mundine to forgo his fight with Sam taking into consideration that it's only 2 months away and that Kessler was meant to fight Miranda then bailed. It could even leave the WBA open to legal action....

Finally, as for Choc dropping to middleweight it wouldn't be a problem, in fact he has actually weighed in light for some of his fights.

Now I'm off to try this new brand of **** on my neighbours chickens and I won't be back for a while so no ticking clocks please (that means you Josey Jamaica)

 

Loos like Choc's chickens are coming home to roost Aye Ajay ? he will need to step up soon ,,Regards Jamcian Josey

 

Good post Ajay. A fight with Kess will definitely be different this time round. And as you said choc showed signs of his old style in that fight.

 

It's hard to guage whether that Mundine still exists though as he never got hit much against Green, and Soliman didn't have the power to keep him on the back foot.

They say attack is often the best form of defence, and if you've got any sort of sting in your punches and you can land them, then this is definitely the case when fighting Mundine.

I hope he's changed enough, but I can't be too optimistic about it. I'm also expecting a better Kessler to turn up as well. I think we'll get pretty much the same result as last time if they go at it again.

I hope I'm wrong though.

 

Since the fight in Sydney Kessler fought, Lucas, Beyer, Andrade and Calzaghe. Who has Mundine faced ?

 

Green - who got beat by Beyer - a win that seems to make some people think that Mundine is now ready for Kessler

Soliman - who lost to Bika - who Kessler had no problems at all with while sparring.

Hamdan - who lost even bigger to Mads Larsen in his fight prior to facing Mundine

a few taxidrivers.

Green and Soliman were decent opponents - no doubt - but they are not Kessler in any way. They don't have the skills of Kessler - nor the build or style of Kessler. Add to that Kessler injury last time around and you get another Kessler-victory.

Mundine got the skills - but he lacks the heart to deliever against Kessler and the workrate to beat a consistant scoring Kessler.

Mundine has two things going for him - hometown advantage - he got all the rounds he could ever hope for by two of the three judges.

Kessler's defeat - defeats have changed boxers before - mayby Kessler wouldn't have the belief in his own abilities anymore. Kessler defeat however could also be to Kessler advantage - as said earlier in this thread - defeats can sometimes make a boxer much better than a win - one thing is for sure Kessler learned a lot in Wales that night.

 

I agree with 'THN' and 'Faetter_BR'.

Mundine hasn't done as much as Kessler since they met, sure Mundine has fought more, however the level of this opposition (at least the majority) has been vastly inferior.

Kessler will have only improved from his loss to Calzaghe, and he was very very good prior to, and during that fight in any case.

I've said it before, I can't see Mundine ever beating Kessler.
I actually see a more convincing win from Kessler second time round.

Rick.