mundine ko?

Mundine has been dominating for the last few years, he needed to show the rest of the world he's capable of losing so that the mayweathers, cottos, pavliks will stop ducking him......so of course it was a dive.

 

Garth did land a nice combo of suspect shots....haha....but I don't mind at all....it's just what choc needed :good

 

2001 Ash, cumdine wins Aussie title, commentators say that its off to USA for cumdine but for the next 9 yrs he only fights less than a hand full of world rated fighters and then goes on the domestic scene because his such a nice bloke and wants to give everyone an oppertunity, someone forgot to tell him along the way that he has to back up his big mouth some day and 9 yrs is a pretty long stretch mate, his time is up.

Perhaps a couple more fights he will Milk some cash but he is just about done mate, take the blinkers off, go watch him in 2001 then watch him now, he is not the same man nor will he ever be, age has a funny way of catching up with you and unless Cumdine has a time machine he is utterly farked. Cotto, Mayweather etc would be laughting at cumdine if they knew who he was that is.

Mundine also sabotaged his chances of going to the USA on purpose, with the wild statment he made in ref to 911, this occured in 2001, and yep he made the anti usa statment in the same year he was supposed to go to USA, so off to Germany for a fight against Otkee.

You got to question the idiots who now follow Mundine, Ash whats wrong with you dont you watch anyone else do boxing? you cant be that blinded by the waste of talent in cumdine. Just got knocked the fark out by a ****** fighter, honestly mate slap yourself and wake the fark up, i got half a dozen blokes ive trained not to mention a few mates at the pub who would ALL hand Woods his azz, Mundine is a joke and should fck off from boxing, he isnt giving it mouth to mouth, the **** is killing this sport and he is a dirty dirty bussiness man.

Why not pay the undercards? Why make them sell tickets, can you answer this one mate, how farkn un australian of him to do this to fighters, they have enough to worry about in preparing for the fight let alone having to sell tickets so they can pay themselfs for a nights work, the money mundine has he should be ashamed of himself for doing this. Last but least, 80% of the country hates him and only followed half his fights in hopes he would be knocked out, now thats occured do you really think that his farce bullsht crap his been pulling for the past 9 yrs is really going to fly?

HE IS DONE! GOOD NIGHT CUMDINE, please Green be next lol

 

I think Greenghost has been Hitting the Spirit's a little to much.!!!!!

 

the head butt started the flurry of punches that dropped mundine.the knee on the way down was just how focused woods was,'ILL START WITH A HEAD BUTT AND ILL FINISH WITH A KNEE'...look at the look on garths face when the ref talks to them..mundine says something and garths look is priceless.....

 

That stare down at the start was ****ing priceless.
Right then and there Wood looked like he had had enough of the nonsense which is brought in by The Pioneer and his enterage.
In fact did any body notice how completely pissed off Wood was competing for room in the ring with those ****ing ******ed break dances.
I honestly thought Wood was going to give one of them a right cross.

 

Safe to say quite a few promoters in AUST get top level domestic fighters to sell tickets/ tables mate

I dont care if chocs done or not mate....I'm a fan win or lose :deal

 

Hey Guys

I posted this on a different forum to a frozen reception.

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1325573&p=16

For those with an open mind you should read on. Those who have cemented their own conclusion of the ko DO NOT READ ON!!

Your first impression after reading this could be "wtf, this guys got too much time on his hands". But to be straight up, I am close to a subject matter expert in this area. I analyse motion taken with high speed cameras as a small subset of a broader range of scientific activities.

The following analysis is based on viewing three separate camera angles, the playback is done frame by frame (30 fps) and the three footages synced. Please also take into account I was ringside on the side where the KO occured. The sequence of events were as follows;

1) The boxers are closely huddled against the ropes. Garth positions his head on mundines left shoulder trying to use mundines body as a guard to reduce the punch wind-up distance.
2) Mundine executes a right uppercut to hit Wood in the head in this defensive huddle position
3) Mundine connects with the right side of Woods head. It is partially glancing but the impact is still very strong.
4) This powerful but partially glancing uppercut imparts a large impulse on Woods head, the primary direction of impact momentum is a head move reaction from Garths right to left.
5) Because of the proximity of mundines head to woods head, Woods head momentum (from the upper cut impact) results in a powerful head clash. The point of impact on Woods head is the top/left part of the skull. The point of impact on mundines head is his temple.
6) Mundine is stunned from the powerful bone on bone impact. He is possibly KO'd on his feet at this point. The recovery time from such a headclash would probably be several seconds.
7) Mundine keels to his right and instinctively gestures to the ref that there was a headclash by placing his left glove to his temple ( i dont believe this specific handmove was a defensive block).
8 ) Wood sees that mundine is in a comprimising crouched position and doesnt appear to be continuing evasive movements.
9) Wood punches mundine in the back of the head.
10) Wood connects with a powerful punch to the left side of mundines head.
11) Mundine still tries to remain in that crouched position that was initially just a reflex action intended to alert the ref of a headclash.
12) Wood imparts a push force to mundines body with his knees/legs to push him over.
13) Mundine counted out for a KO

 

Continued..

I will explain why i think it was a headclash. When you look at it frame by frame, each frame is about 0.03s. Looking at The initial headmove by mundine into that bent over position we see that the maximum speed (of his head) occurs during the first frame of movement. Within that first frame his head goes from stationary to about 12 inches of displacement, then a constant motion before deacelerating to a stopped position where he got walloped.
Lets consider the four possible causes of such movement;

1) Wood imparts direct impact to mundines head with glove
2) A headclash
3) A voluntary evasive movement
4) Reel from a body blow.

Straight up we can rule out 3 and 4. The reason for this is that the motion has the highest speed in the first frame after being stationary. If it was a voluntary movement then it would have involved the following sequence;

a) a concious intention to move head
b) muscle action to enact intended movement
c) acceleration of head from rest
d) deacceleration to new resting position

In each of the 3 angles of footage there is no acceleration of the head from rest ©. The head experiences its fastest motion in the first frame of movement. Fundamentally it moves because of a collision. Thus we rule out 3 and 4.

Now we are left with 1 and 2. Woods glove is nowhere near mundines head at time of movement. Therefore we rule out 1 and it is more likely that 2 explains the head motion. This is additionally supported by the appearance of a collision of the two heads.

 

Continued Again LOL...

I then put forward a theory behind why there was not an immediate headclash appeal by Mundine to the ref;

I dont believe this was possible because of the following 2 reasons.
1) The time between head clash and enactment of right punch to the back of the head is something like 0.3s. Not enough time to enact an effective appeal even under ideal physical condition.
2) He was not in good physical condition. During that 0.3 or so seconds he was well and truly stunned by the head clash
It is worth pointing out that "immediate" in this context does not imply a reaction in 0 seconds after an event, but a reaction after a period of time determined by ones reflexes. I speculate this is about 0.3 to 0.5s under ideal conditions and definitely longer under adverse physical conditions.
2)

So to wrap this up, it is very likely that the root cause of the KO was an indirect but self inflicted blow by mundine. Quite incredible if you ask me.

 

HEAD CLASH! he shuts off after that

 

does look like the headbutt then followed by the body shot then the rest

 

i prefer to label it as a headclash (not intentional) as opposed to headbutt (intentional)

in this case, woods head does not accelerate from rest. His head moves in the direction of mundines temple region because of the uppercut, again indicated by a large displacement in the first frame of movement.

The body shot was glancing and probably had no impact on mundine. This is indicated by looking at the speed of Woods left glove pre and post impact with the body. The speed is nearly the same which implies the impact was very weak. The angle of impact looks like it is less than 30deg. In fact, in one of the camera angles it looks like he doesnt make any impact with the body at all. Compare this to the famous body blow inflicted by Roy Jones Jr on Virgil Hill.

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The impact is incredably efficient with nearly all the punch momentum absorbed by the rib cage. Angle of impact is straight on

 

Left hook to the jaw finished mundine off