Mundine Steals Geale's Title

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  1. sambo1987

    sambo1987 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah you're right man both guys did do well and it was a good close competitive fight (unlike Leapi getting matched up against his Pops - farce). I think Mundine will now honestly know whether he has it to mix it at the top after that fight and will make a decision accordingly. Hope he decides to step up, which either means: he does well (I would be happy for him) or he gets starched (I would be even happier) :yep
     
    sambo1987, May 28, 2009
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  2. Ben K

    Ben K Member Full Member

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    To clear up something. In super close rounds if you cant decide on punches alone. The guy making the fight should get the round. Aggression is a small part of scoring but if all else is equal the aggressive guy who is pushing the action should get the round. IMO
     
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  3. IrnBruMan

    IrnBruMan Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Mundine:

    Won vacant WBA World SMW belt against a blown-up MW in Antwun Echols - the vacant belt was created when Sven Ottke was elevated to Super Champ status by the WBA when he unified his IBF belt with the real WBA SMW belt against Byron Mitchell

    Inherited real WBA SMW belt when Ottke retired.

    Lost real WBA SMW belt to Manny Siaca.

    Won vacant WBA World SMW belt against a blown-up MW in Sam Soliman - the belt was created when Joe Calzaghe was elevated to Super Champ status by the WBA when he unified his IBO belt with the real WBA SMW belt against Mikkel Kessler.

    Inherited real WBA SMW belt when Calzaghe vacated it and moved up to LHW to face Bernard Hopkins.

    Gave up real WBA SMW belt when Mikkel Kessler became his mandatory.

    Won IBO International MW belt via SD.

    So he's won 3 paper titles, inherited 2 real titles, lost 1 real title, vacated 1 real title, and won 1 minor title.

    Has never fought a real champ and beaten him for the real title.

    The only sure '3 times' things about Mundine are his losses :yep
     
    IrnBruMan, May 28, 2009
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  4. Marcus

    Marcus Boxing Junkie banned

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    POST OF THE YEAR!!!!

    hey ash :hey
     
    Marcus, May 28, 2009
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  5. Francis75

    Francis75 FAB 4 Full Member

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    Excellent post. 100 % correct. Even the 2 real title's he inherited when the WBA super champ went up or vacated Mundine then lost his next fight or vacated himself. He has ****en never been a world champion imo. He is/was a very talented boxer but it's a lot of smoke and mirrors in reality with very little substance at the top level. The true boxing fans who understand the sport know this. The only problem is that there isn't many genuine boxing fans out there in Australia who can see through the BS.
     
    Francis75, May 28, 2009
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  6. teke

    teke Titans Time !!! Full Member

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    ...and yet Danny Green has :rofl
     
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  7. LeonMcS

    LeonMcS The Mayor of Kronkton Full Member

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    He sure vacated himself when Kessler was named as his mandatory.
     
    LeonMcS, May 28, 2009
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  8. Francis75

    Francis75 FAB 4 Full Member

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    Greens just as bad. Throws his belt away and makes up a BS excuse to avoid fighting a decent opponent. I can't stand the both of them.
     
    Francis75, May 28, 2009
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  9. ashley

    ashley Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I liked it...its good:good
     
    ashley, May 28, 2009
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  10. COULDHAVEBEEN

    COULDHAVEBEEN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's how his Wikapaedia entry ought to read IrnBruMan - perhaps you ought to submit it to them.
     
    COULDHAVEBEEN, May 28, 2009
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  11. IrnBruMan

    IrnBruMan Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Yep.

    And you know it, brutha-a-a-a-a-a :yep
     
    IrnBruMan, May 28, 2009
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  12. teke

    teke Titans Time !!! Full Member

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    Pisses me off actually cause Greeny could have done good things with that Belt :-(
     
    teke, May 29, 2009
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  13. ajay11

    ajay11 Original Convict Full Member

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    What sometimes gets lost is that boxing is an art that involves many different skills including defence, counterpunching, bodywork and acuracy.

    Mundine was better on all those fronts including landing more power punches which appeared to catch up with Geale in the latter rounds.

    Why should a guy rolling forward with arms flailing get a close round? My seven year old son can throw punches in bunches but he has yet to develop some of the more difficult skills like parrying or slipping a punch by a millimeter then following it up with a counter right to the jaw.
     
    ajay11, May 30, 2009
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  14. ajay11

    ajay11 Original Convict Full Member

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    I would like to add that if it were not for Anthony Mundine's personality and arogant confidence then we'd all be the worse for it.

    Sport is an entertainment and gone are the days whe guys like Joe Louis or Don Bradman bore us to tears by telling us how much they respect their opponents in that dreadful monotone.

    I will also mention that while the current title holders around the world are a few class levels above Geale that doesn't automatically mean that Mundine would get beaten.

    Styles make fights boys and I've always said that I believe Pavlik's style is perfect for Mundine so long as he moves laterally and keeps off the ropes...otherwise it'll be over in 3 rounds. Hopkins used great lateral movement to fire in at Pavlik while keeping the middleweight off balance and making it difficult for him to get set.

    Choc has the tools to do just that.
     
    ajay11, May 30, 2009
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  15. dave fletcher

    dave fletcher New Member Full Member

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    both boxers showed a good array of skills this is what made for a great fight. choc has proved over many of fight that he is hard to tag (good defense) but geale exposed a bad flaw in chocs defense in that under pressure he goes into a submissive type stance leaving himself unaware of his opponents position this is where on a number of occassions geale easily through good lateral skills manoeuvred himself to the left or right of choc. just my observation
     
    dave fletcher, May 30, 2009
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