mundine vs pavlik rumour mill

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  1. kruger

    kruger Member Full Member

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    he did not unanimously win any rounds...

    In nearly every sensible persons opinion he won more than none however!

    In most peoples opinion he won more than two... not many more but more than two.
     
  2. teke

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    I am confused myself, cause i believe you that he won two rds on 2 judges scorecards. Which leaves another 3 rds he won ie. one judge would have given one rd and the other judge 2 diff rounds while the 3rd judge was masturbating over Kessler. All in all i thought it was a competitive fight which he convincingly lost on pts.
     
  3. teke

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  4. teke

    teke Titans Time !!! Full Member

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    Thats the truth, he didnt win any rds unanimously.
     
  5. teke

    teke Titans Time !!! Full Member

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    You've been going to Stiflers Mums school on teke havnt you :twisted:
     
  6. stiflers mum

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    mundine lost the kessler fight convincingly
    mundine then won his 2nd class belt when kessler unified
    he became full champ when kess failed to beat JC and JC went to get the LHW ring belt
    he defended his belt against some nuffies and a mate from the mosque and ran like a girl rather than defend his belt against kessler and try to redeem himself by avenging his crushing loss.
    mundine=*****
    close thread
     
  7. ajay11

    ajay11 Original Convict Full Member

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  8. ajay11

    ajay11 Original Convict Full Member

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    As a response I could write forever on this subject but my time would be better spent preaching Buddhism to Orangutangs.

    If you feel threatend contact ASIO and should they crash in my door at 6:00am and drag me away with my early morning erection in hand, I'll make sure my final instruction to the wife are;

    1. Change "Long Live Saddam" to "Long Live Muqtada"

    2. Change my location from Osama's training camp to WACO Texas.


    Or maybe you could grow a set of testicles and man up.
     
  9. ajay11

    ajay11 Original Convict Full Member

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    Obviously Mundine's loss to Kessler was clear cut but a schooling is debatable. While Kessler won the majority of rounds there were a fair few that Kessler won by a few extra clean shots combined with a little more aggression. You only have to look at the Kessler v Calzaghe fight to see how a fighter can loss convincingly without it being a hiding.

    Watch the whole fight and you'll see Mundine land plenty of nice shots, sharp right hands as well as his customary jab that saw him win plenty of exchanges. The simple fact is that over the majority of the rounds Kessler won more of the exchanges than Mundine.

    That ain't a schooling.
     
  10. ajay11

    ajay11 Original Convict Full Member

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    I think anyone that a) is objective + b) has an understanding of the way boxing promoters work, would reflect on the difficultly in relation to securing a fight with someone like Pavlik before being so critical.

    There's so many factors to take into consideration. Apart from the promoters of the current title holders looking to cash in before their money making machines fail them and are exchanged for scrap metal (as they all eventually will) you have promoters bouncing their guys around weight divisions and relinquishing belts rather than risk their fighter (yes, Mundine included)

    Why didn't Calzaghe ever fight in the USA prior to his most recent fight? Why hasn't Cotto fought Mayweather? Is Mayweather afraid or is he waiting until Cotto beats Margarito tonight? Where's the fighters like Mosley, Judah and Dela Hoya on Margarito's resume? The guy is big enough to be a middleweight! Gatti, Forrest, Tito, all big name fighters who have the privilege to pick and choose their next bout with minimum risk for maximum reward. Of course everyone has their price.

    Why didn't Kessler fight Miranda? Why is Pavlik fighting Hopkins when he has only defended his middleweight titles twice, one of those being a rematch? Surely there's middleweight contenders who have earnt a crack at him....yet up pops B-Hop.

    WHY ? If Pavlik beat Hopkins and Calzaghe beats Roy Jones then we get the mega fight.

    Anyone wanting to know how hard it is to get a a shot at a big name fighter from the US needs to get hold of Nader Hamden for a chat. At 32-0 he was the No.2 ranked contender for Oscar Dela Hoya's WBC 154lb title after capturing the Australian junior middleweight and middleweight titles, the IBF light middleweight Pan Pacific title and the OPBF title, but after countless letdowns and broken promises it became apparent that he was never going to get a shot at the champ because Dela Hoya could make much more cash fighting better known fighters....

    Hamden went up to middleweight (WBC immeadiately ranked him 5th) where he lost to Sam Soliman. Unfortunately, by then his frustrations had affected his mindset and passion that never fully returned.

    Back to Mundine, his team will keep working towards a major fight for the end of the year. While he may have to take a number and wait in line for someone like Pavlik, you can bet your mothers disability pension that it's going to be a move in the right direction.

    I must admit, the moronic few at ESB, setting records posting negative hyperbole about Mundine have me curious. How grown men find the time to consistantly ***** about another guy to one another....**** get a life before you start making one another feel important.

    BTW, it has been confirmed that Mundine will get a boost in the rankings by fighting Loopy Lenny. Guess there's a meaning to the madness after all.