There's a bloke a work 6'6 and i said to him last friday at work drinks - "gee your a tall **** Smithy" didn't know that was being racist :huh BTW - I thaought coconut was a reference to pacific Islanders with them having hard heads and coming from Islands with lots of coconuts
Coconut used in this context is like 'banana' used to insult people of Asian ethnicity who have become full westernised. You best believe it is a racist term, as anything used as an insult that refers to the colour of a person's skin, is racist. I've heard the term coconut used by an Aboriginal to insult another Aboriginal before, much like the African American use of 'Uncle Tom' and 'Toby' as stifler mentioned earlier, is used to ostracise and insult any African American that others feel have risen 'above their station' or sold out to whitey. The term 'coconut' used to describe Islanders is also racist - it's like calling all Arabs terrorists, or all French people frogs (clickit clickit!! )
Racism discrimination 2 different words when race is used it is racism. when non race issues are used Fat, tall, pregnant, a women, a man, disabled Etc then it is discrimination. when any of these issues are abused it is wrong and all should be looked at the same way discrimination is wrong whether it is race religion or body structure
Agreed Mauler. I'm curious what that c-r-a-c-k-e-r bull**** that Mundine was carrying on with months ago really means. I do know enough from listening around that it's racists but the actual meaning?
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Cheers for the c-r-a-c-k-e-r explanation IBM. Interesting how Mundine was able to use that term like it was his word-of-the-month and not get pulled up for it. Yet if the people he aimed his comment at referred to him as say c-o-o-n for example, there'd be merry bloody hell to pay!
An interesting ommission from this thread is sallywinder. Sally wrote a bio the other day indicating torres straight Islander connections yet not a word from sally regarding the intentional racsism in "The Pioneers" remarks towards Islanders???? Wheres (wally) Sally?
what are you talking about. the thread wasnt started by me, nor have i had a post in it. if i did....where the **** is it? quote me **** head!!!!!! find what you are on about!!!!!
When you came back from your self imposed exile (about 24 hours) after death threats. The thread you wrote about your son comming second in a footrace, part Islander??? Have you deleted that thread.....?????
you mean my boys best mate, who just left here with his mum? you mean, where the 'white' kid held back my boy by the shirt, and got disqualified? and my boy got the 'second' ribbon and his TI mate won? and the race 2 months ago with the same kids my boy over a longer distance won by a street? so what? my kid is half indonesian, a people who i believe are a mix of islander and chinese. whats your point **** head? the only point you make is that you are a dead****. and you made it well.