Murray Best Keep away from Rios and Ortiz

If he is real about fighting JMM or Katsidis, he needs something before he steps up. I agree Lundy would be a good test. I don't think Murray can rely on a single shot like Molina did. If he sets a high tempo, he can overcome him in the later rounds and force a stoppage. I'd make sure the fight was over 12 rounds.

 

JMM is in another league at the moment miguel vasquez would beat him.soto is beatable

 

I'd pick Katsidis to beat Soto, but not Murray.

Soto is disinterested. He scored an early lead against David Diaz, then when it came to him he'd been doing little, switched it on and decked him late.

I think Soto would beat Murray widely on points myself. Best fight for Murray is Vasquez, then again that's assuming worry is any better than Iron Chin Kim, which I don't think he is.

 

Soto is the weirdest fighter he needs to be motivated to look good yet he ducks any legitimate challenge. He keeps taking the weakest contenders available and because he is unmotivated looks like ****, in fact he hasn't really looked good since losing to Guzman. Talk about illogical. If Soto came unmotivated and gave a performance like he has recently I would fancy Murray to beat him, but if the real motivated Soto turned up I would pick Soto.

It's a moot point either way because there is no chance that Soto gives Murray a shot when he has avoided his mandatory with help from the WBC, avoided a HBO fight with Anthony Peterson, avoided a fight with Urbano Antillon and his last opponent was hand picked and had only ever beaten three fighters with a winning record (I **** you not).

 

I'd keep Murray away from Vasquez, stylistic nightmare IMO :yep

 

Vasquez is brilliant at styfiling power punchers, he did a quality job on both Kim and Prescott. Will be interesting to see how he does with Lundy if that fight comes off as rumoured.

 

yet another silly, negative thread. the way soe of you go on, i wonder why you're not boxing managers.

murray grinds down a good fighter, but because he doesn't display the kind of aimless, flashy combos to wake up the impatient among you, he's slow and limited. because he blocks / parries shots rather than using loads of head movement, he's easy to hit.

so what have we learned? murray needs to step up, BUT murray needs to stay away from the handful of US names you like to throw around. OK...

JM's been on one of the better domestic and european runs of recent memory. meager, lawton, mcallister, thaxton, buckland & kudryavtsev were all rated in the EBU top 10 and all stopped by JM. there just isn't the money to bring in the likes of barrera and kotelnik, vivian harris and nate campbell.

some might think he should risk all, jump to GBP's tune & fight ortiz. however, many things can go wrong fighting away from home. there won't be anyone to pick up the pieces in quick time if it goes wrong. because JM wasn't a massvie investment, if things go wrong he's not going to get the khan or ortiz treatment, is he? big names, TV dates, expensive training...so give him the benefit of the doubt, let him make his own way to the title he wants, and see what happens.