Muscles don't make fighting men

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by MooMan, Jun 2, 2019.


  1. BodyBlaster

    BodyBlaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I get what he was saying.
    He was saying that boxing isn’t about aesthetics, it’s about ability, speed, timing, accuracy, conditioning, punch resistance and possibly most importantly, desire.
    Desire to drag yourself to horrible places in training, and desire to prevail when the going gets tough.

    I’m not sure Joshua has enough of the latter these days. He has seemed gun shy since Wlad should have beaten him, and I don’t think he wanted to quit v Ruiz, but I don’t think he was prepared to go through hell to win, and IMO had accepted his fate long before the conclusion.

    A bit like Tyson v Lewis. Took a pasting, but had accepted after about a round it was lost.
    That was AJ from the 1st knockdown IMO.

    I don’t think he has the desire of Fury, or before him the Holyfields etc.
    I’ve never seen a stranger demeanour from a just beaten ex champion. He looked relieved.
    I think mentally he doesn’t want it anymore.
     
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  2. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he is talking about more its whats inside rather than the look of someone on the outside. Its about size of heart.

    Or the famous saying "its not the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog"
     
  3. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' booted Full Member

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    ''Bodybuilding ain't boxing'' as Fury would say.
     
  4. Jurgen

    Jurgen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Coming soon mate - it is the most competitive division in boxthing
     
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  5. anjawnaymiz

    anjawnaymiz Get outta my pub you slags!!! Full Member

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    I thought AJ recovered well from that shot from klitchko but I suppose that was more of smash in the face compared to those two brain rattlers from Ruiz
     
  6. Jurgen

    Jurgen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My current top 10 Heavyweight Puddings are as follows:

    1. Pudding Stiverne
    2. Pudding Allen
    3. Pudding Price
    4. Pudding Charr
    5. Pudding Breazeale
    6. Pudding Takam
    7. Pudding Chisora
    8. Pudding Whyte
    9. Pudding Parker
    10. Pudding Pulev

    The only change in the rankings is that Pudding Ruiz has dropped out of the top 10 and Tony Dosh PPV is now one rematch defeat from appearing on this list.
     
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  7. Here's Johnny

    Here's Johnny Well-Known Member Full Member

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  8. caligula4

    caligula4 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Formidable list, but it's very incomplete without nicknames attached. Edited the list to start off and egg on the pancake making
     
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  9. emallini

    emallini Boxing Junkie booted Full Member

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    Allen is too low
     
  10. Jurgen

    Jurgen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Number 1 is the top pudding mate or worst boxer
     
  11. EJC83

    EJC83 Active Member Full Member

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    F**king hell, this pudding thing is ridiculous!!!! Good work though, made me laugh!

    I still think Ruiz jnr is a comical KO waiting to happen and when it does he'll creep up the ladder, piglike squinty eyes and a fat out of shape body are tailor made for highlight reel KO's, muscles make fighting men over flab, on the whole.
     
  12. EJC83

    EJC83 Active Member Full Member

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    The irony of the comment is that the better shape that Fury gets himself in the better he performs. Andy Ruiz Jnr beating a clearly not right Joshua, and I'm not a Joshua fanboy in the slightest, doesn't mean that muscles don't matter or play a huge and significant part, they do. I don't think Dave Allen is trimming the flab and increasing his strength and improving his muscle tone for aesthetics.
     
  13. 305th

    305th Boxing Addict Full Member

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    With the greatest of respect to Fury, if he was carrying the muscle genetic card like Joshua, he'd probably be saying different.
     
  14. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Active Member booted Full Member

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    You occasionally get a fighter who doesn't look aesthetically great who does well regardless buy if that statement was 100% true, you would have seen Tyson, Holyfield and all the others getting routinely bashed up by fatties.

    Joshua's lack of ring IQ has nowt to do with how much weight he lifts
     


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