Muscular fighters losing their snap

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  1. jabber74

    jabber74 Member Full Member

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    It always seemed to me muscular fighters always wing their punches in a roundhouse fashion. They also seem to have stamina issues. Do you think I am correct on this? It was always said lifting weights made a fighter musclebound and was a no no. Now today, many fighters incllude it in their regimen.
     
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  2. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ken Norton was muscular but had excellent stamina.
     
  3. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is usually true. Had a guy i sparred with who had gigantic shoulders and biceps. Had good thudding power for about 2 rounds, but after a few body shots he was completely gassed.

    Anthony Joshua has decent stamina for a bulky guy, but lacks snap in his punches (other than his uppercut which is very impressive).

    Lifting weights isn't a bad thing, but like any exercise it must be done in moderation. You have to maintain your speed, snap, and stamina. Some guys can't resist the urge to look as huge as possible.
     
  4. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Emile Griffith says Hello
     
  5. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Resident Gadfly Full Member

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    He was just lean. Overall a small guy.
     
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  6. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Resident Gadfly Full Member

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    Guys, literally the answer to this question is Mike Tyson. Followed by Chris Eubank snr, Jersey Walcott and James J Jefferson.
     
  7. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes he’s a welterweight….but look at that physique
     
  8. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Resident Gadfly Full Member

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    I wouldn’t call him “muscle bound” which I think the OP is eluding to. Lacking sap/stamina etc. Griffith looks like a fit guy and you’d call him muscular but he was slim and stringy. Chris Eubank Snr I think with all due respect would make for a better example.
     
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  9. jabber74

    jabber74 Member Full Member

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    Some may appear muscular, but their bodies were a different type of muscle. Tyson may seem it to some, but his was different then say Tommy Morrison. Rubin Carter it may have applied to, but Hagler it did not, yet they both appeared to be muscular. Hagler was more lean. It depends on how the fighter carries it. Tyson's natural build was that way, I don't think he ever lifted weights.
     
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    Rubin Carter I would say muscle bound, Griffith I would say no. He carried it differently, different body type. I can see where Carter could have a stamina issue, but not Emile.
     
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  11. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    A trainer told me that having a large chest slows down your punching. Bodybuilders for the most part can't box too well. Weight training done correctly is beneficial to an athlete as long as its tailored to what sport their playing.

    Keep flexibility, explosive movements, don't Bodybuild. Show muscles chest, arms, shoulders don't really help in boxing.
     
  12. Marvelous_Iron

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    Evan Fields greatest traps of all time
     
  13. Barrf

    Barrf Active Member Full Member

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    Except his size was natural. I don't think he touched a weight until late in his career.
     
  14. META5

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    If you lift weights and eat like a body builder, with the right genetics, nutrition (possibly synthetic hormones/supplementation) and time, you will look like a body builder and have all the aesthetics but also the weaknesses and imbalances that this approach could bring.

    If you lift weights like a high performance elite combat fighter then you will have explosive responsive muscle. If done right, without the neglecting of stamina staples and the natural stamina boosting relaxation in the midst of combat that comes with hours of hitting the bag, focusing on correct techniques, sparring and learning of the game, this will help you to maximise your in-ring potential.

    Ultimately, as kru always says, how you spar, how you eat, how you train, how you think and how you live will be how you fight.
     
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  15. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    That may be, but he was still muscular.

    Unless this thread is saying that muscles built with bodybuilding are fake, or different in some way from real, biological muscles.
     
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