My 10 best heavyweights head to head of all time

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I am not big on labeling a fighter as great in a head to head sense, as its all hypothetical. But if forced to create a list, it would look something like below. Again this does not factor in heavyweights who might belong on such a list for legacy reasons. This is purely head to head.

    In no particular order

    - Joe Louis

    - Muhammad Ali

    - George Foreman

    - Sonny Liston

    - Joe Frazier

    - Larry Holmes

    - Mike Tyson

    - Lennox Lewis

    - Evander Holyfield

    - Wladimir Klitschko
     
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  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    A fair number of those guys are in my legacy top 10 as well, but one or two of them would have to be swapped out in exchange for others.
     
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  3. Jayhaych

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    Great List....Maybe jack Johnson would squeeze in for me
     
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  4. willcross

    willcross Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Head to had I would probably replace Wlad with Vitali, due to his better chin and fighting spirit. It's a great list though
     
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  5. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Vitali a better fighting spirit than Wlad? HAHAHAHHAH that's laughable
     
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  6. willcross

    willcross Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You think so? Maybe arguable, not laughable tho. Your referring to Wlad always getting up from knockdowns and Vitali quitting to injuries? Let me explain what I meant better.

    Vitali seems to enjoy what he does more than Wlad and panics less. Wlad at times seemed very uncomfortable in the ring. I think Vitali has more of a tendancy to fight back when hurt, out of competition. Wlad goes more defensive.

    Surely in a hypothetical head to head match you can't worry about vitali quitting a fight he was winning due to a bad shoulder. Those type of things happen in real life, but not mythical fights. Wlad getting put into panic mode or getting knocked down multiple times should be accounted for, since it happened in real life (albeit pre prime).
     
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  7. PhillyPhan69

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    1 Frazier
    2 Louis
    3 Ali
    4 Holmes
    5 Foreman
    6 Holyfield
    7 Tyson
    8 Liston
    9 Lewis
    10 Wlad
     
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  8. SuzieQ49

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    When has Wlad in his prime 2007-Present ever showed these kinds of signs of panic?
     
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  9. hookfromhell

    hookfromhell Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tyson
    Ali
    Foreman
    Lewis
    Louis
    Bowe
    Frazier
    Liston
    Holmes
    Johnson
     
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    hookfromhell Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tyson
    Ali
    Foreman
    Lewis
    Louis
    Bowe
    Frazier
    Liston
    Holmes
    Johnson
    sorry posted twice by accdent
     
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  11. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Solid list, Magoo. I may have replaced Wlad with his brother, but Wlad is good at what he does. Good list.
     
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  12. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fighters generally revert to type when put in pressure situations. Wlad hasn't had anyone put meaningful pressure on him in a long time.
     
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    1.Mike Tyson
    2.Larry Holmes
    3.Lennox Lewis
    4.Muhammad Ali
    5.Sonny Liston
    6.George Foreman
    7.Riddick Bowe
    8.Evander Holyfield
    9.Rocky Marciano
    10.Joe Frazier
     
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  14. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is a fine list, but you definitely need to switch Wlad with his brother. Vitali is much more formidable head-to-head and would win in an actual fight between the two prime-for-prime.

    Heck, I think Vitali would win even now.
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  15. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Thanks for the feedback guys. As for the majority's vote for Vitali replacing Wlad on the list, an argument can certainly be made and very understandably. I suppose the reason I placed him there is because while Vitali DID beat two of Wlad's conquerors, he did manage to fight and beat a wider array of ranked men and with varying styles.. But its still a fair call for those who think otherwise.
     
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