My 2nd Fight

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  1. Mackoonac

    Mackoonac New Member Full Member

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    Hey guys, here's my 2nd fight

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    Im in the Blue headgear, lost by MD.

    My coach wanted to pull me out the fight because I have (and still have) a torn meniscus on my right knee lol
     
  2. gumbo2176

    gumbo2176 Active Member Full Member

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    Should have listened to your coach. With that injury I'd imagine it was not easy to get much hip rotation and push off the balls of your feet to generate any real power on you punches.

    I did notice something odd that you do frequently. When you were throwing your jab you would often have the right hand leave your guard and lurch forward several inches almost in unison with the jab. That will make it much harder to get any power on a follow-up right if the opportunity arises to do so. Try to keep that right close to your chin so you can get full range of motion on a straight right.

    You also fight tall with your chin up pretty high, making it an easier target for you opponent. Not a lot of bobbing and weaving in there by either of you.

    I know this is the amateurs and striking your opponent is more important than well placed power shots, but you did a lot of what we call"shoe shine" to the body with little power behind the punches. Maybe a couple well placed, hard body shots could have helped you out a bit.
     
  3. Mackoonac

    Mackoonac New Member Full Member

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    Thanks for the feedback, I will work on those areas:thumbsup
     
  4. Speechless

    Speechless Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Congratulations on your 2nd fight. Even if it wasn't a win - you can definitely learn from this experience - good luck in future fights.

    My observations:
    1 - you are extremely flat footed. This coupled with the fact that you are standing up straight (high centre of gravity) makes you very easy to knock off balance. Especially with guys just like your opponent you move forward and want to back you up.
    Also, being on your toes will help you put some weight behind punches and get some power - flat footed encourages you to throw weaker "arm punches".
    Also, being on your toes will help your combinations flow better/faster.
    2 - You jam yourself up on the inside. Like Gumbo was suggesting - you need to create some space either with a simple step back, or to the side so you can throw more meaningful punches. Guys like your opponent like to smother you, so that your punches become short meaningless slaps - create some distance then put some sauce on those punches.
    3 - Lastly, stepping into a jab is OK. But your jabs are too slow. The reason for this is you are simultaneously stepping in - WHILE jabbing. Essentially you are letting the step dictate the speed of the jab. Instead, step first, then toss out a quick jab. It's not easy to abandon your usual technique, and modify it. But it will be so worth it.
    If you can't jab quickly - then there's absolutely no benefit to jabbing.

    A lot of this you will get over i'm sure. Altogether you didn't do too badly. You hung in there and gave it all you got.
    To be honest though, your opponent looked more experienced. And I kinda think it should have been a unanimous decision. But you have potential, and I think you'll do much better next time.
     
  5. Mackoonac

    Mackoonac New Member Full Member

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    Yeah, once my knee has healed up, my coach is gonna work with me to add that 'snap' to my punches
     
  6. Little_Mac

    Little_Mac Active Member Full Member

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    "Sit" on your punches a bit more. You look really stiff. I get that it is probably tough to do that with a bum knee tho :lol:.

    At any rate, good fight. Don't worry about the loss, it's the experience that counts :good
     
  7. daly5050

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    Your punches are all arm punches, there was hardly any power on them which is why your opponent was able to walk through your punches..

    To be completely honest I'm surprised your opponent didn't stop you..

    Good on you for getting in there but before your next fight you really need to learn how to punch, also how come you didn't throw any left hooks? I don't think your opponent did either which seemed a bit odd

    Also as someone before me said, don't bother with those pitter patter punches on the inside, dig a few good body shots in there and that will slow him up, those small punches aren't hurting him and aren't scoring.

    Sorry if this seemed a little harsh, I liked your jab it looked solid but you hung around too longer after it, either follow it up with another punch or get back out what you were doing was staying in his range and basically waiting for him to throw back.
     
  8. NVSemin

    NVSemin Sugar Boxing Full Member

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    Second fight, no point telling what is wrong. Obviously you are very far from top amateur level. Lets talk about what is not so bad:

    First off, there are signs of proper technique, but in episodes. In the beginning of 1st round you moved with drop step forward and backwards quite ok, not changing your guards. It is good, you just a bit slow at the moment

    Stance is not bad, you keep the right feet pointing outwards like in a textbook, but you are flat footed. I understand, it is hard to keep right heel up, require better conditioning than you have. It is good that you do not raise your chin too much. Right hand is at the chin level more or less. Elbows are tight. What is missing for the textbook orthodox stance is you should bend your knees a bit more and shift weight on the right leg more. This would give more power to your shots.

    Y r clearly not scared. Well, maybe you are, but you do not act like one. This is important. After that guy pressed you to the rope and punched couple times in the first round and in the third (you got hit with good shots), you did not give up!

    You throw lots of punches and move forward. Most of beginners are gun shy, you are not.
     
  9. Mackoonac

    Mackoonac New Member Full Member

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    Thanks for the positive pointers, a lot of people are quick to dish out the negatives but thanks for analysing the good points :)
     
  10. Matt Ldn

    Matt Ldn Boxing Addict Full Member

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    First off relax you look like you've been dragged in. You haven't got to bounce around but loosen up and enjoy it.

    I won't comment too much on anything technique wise thats really your trainers job and I'm sure hes got plenty to say. Don't worry about the loss keep at it, use it as fuel for your training, losses at your (ours really I've only had 4 bouts) stage literally don't mean a thing as long as you are getting experience, improving and most of all having fun then don't let it get to you. Heal up and come back stronger.

    Also don't come on here looking for praise mate you won't find it, take the criticisms on, take on the compliments but don't take them too seriously.
     
  11. NVSemin

    NVSemin Sugar Boxing Full Member

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    Angelo Dundee's moto was: "criticism is ok, encouragement is better". Basically, the topic starter should better do the opposite for his own benefit, i.e.
    "take the compliments on, take on the criticisms but don't take it too seriously."
     
  12. nvs

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    You already did more than people do in these forums. Stepped up in the ring and had a fight. Only way from here is up!

    Good luck!
     
  13. gumbo2176

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    You have a point Mac. I got straight at the things I saw you doing that could be improved on.

    I only had 2 amateur fights that counted for anything and won them both but I had a nagging shoulder injury that kept me from really pursuing it with any consistency. I suffered 4 shoulder separations in a years time and the time it took to recover kept me out of the gym for weeks on end every time. So, for you to go in there with a torn meniscus says a lot about your desire to box. Hats off for that.

    But, and there always seems to be a but, let it heal properly before you hurt it even more and having it cost a lot more time missed in the long run.
     
  14. Mackoonac

    Mackoonac New Member Full Member

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    Thanks Gumbo mate, yeah I'm gonna let this heal, thankfully it's the end of the season now so I have until October to recover :bbb
     
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