My 50 Greatest boxers of all time

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  1. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    Hearns comprehensively outboxing Leonard over the course of 12 rounds proves more than anything Floyd's done. Doing the same and finishing the job against Benitez further illustrates it. Hearns is a far superior practitioner for my money, and here holds every physical advantage on top of devastating power. If I don't like Robinson to outbox him, and give Pea an even lesser chance... Floyd can get ****ed.
     
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  2. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Hearns would stop Mayweather. I'd be really confident in that. He'd jab him silly and would have plenty of success dropping the right hand down passed Floyd's shoulder and wouldn't be wary at all of return fire. Horrible, God awful fight for Mayweather. I'd expect it to be short.
     
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  3. anj

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    I haven't heard of Wilfredo Benitez. Wilfred Benitez...maybe lol
    I think Leonard is a better fighter to beat Floyd.
    Cotto fight - He chose to come forward. Floyd is not a come forward fighter. He was barely being tagged by Ortiz. What about his defensive display against De La Hoya, and all his other great defensive performances? Let's not underrate the skill that has made Mayweather the best in his generation. Besides, during the days of Castillo, Mayweather was a bit more come-forward than he was in say 2010. Yes, Benitez did seem to be pretty decent at defense, I still very much prefer Mayweather as far as defensive fighters go.

    Simply put, I think Mayweather would take advantage of Hearn's lack of defense when Hearns is on the attack, with his slick counter punching.

    lol, weird logic..'we know he'd just end up getting the better for no apparent reason. Right' - putting words into my mouth as though I stated it was for no reason.

    Obviously I think Hearns 'could' use his reach and hard punching to take the sting out of Mayweather and land a win over him. I just don't think it'll happen though.

    Mayweather is great off the ropes. See De La Hoya's fight and Sharmba Mitchell's fight.

    It is somewhat of an open fight, but I still have Mayweather winning 7 times out of 10.

    Selective oriray59 at it again. Fails to mention that his first losses were avenged/doesn't even matter as Johnson went on to be dominant.

    I am skeptical of Johnson I admit, I mean imagine someone like David Haye at cruiserweight 200lbs going up against Sergio Martinez - Martinez will get raped....Johnson was over 200lbs, Philly O'Brien was 160lbs ish - they drew.

    'Aye, he went unbeaten for a long t- Waaait a minute there'...You may finish the word my friend, time.
     
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  4. The Mighty One

    The Mighty One Well-Known Member Full Member

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    These lists are stupid. My problem with pound-for-pound and all time boxer lists is that in actual matchups the heavyweights would always win so why include other boxers from other weight classes....

    Ali
    Wladimir
    Louis
    Marciano
    Foreman
    Tunney
    Dempsey

    These guys would destroy Robinson, Leonard, Chavez, Armstrong etc.
     
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  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I don't think you properly understand the concept of pound for pound.
     
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  6. Flea Man

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    Wilfred Benitez's name is WILFREDO anj
     
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  7. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    So what's with the fixation of placing Johnson and Dempsey higher on these things than they should garner on a Heavyweight list? They're inferior to somebody like Mike Tyson in virtually every way imaginable and I wouldnt even rate him close to Top 50. It's unintentionally hilarious... And sick.

    Consider placing them outside the Top 100.
     
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  8. Flea Man

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    Agree with every.single.word :good

    Orriray bringing out Heisenberg :clap:
     
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  9. Flea Man

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    Boxing News' top 100 special had Yuh ahead of Chang and Fighting Harada didn't make the list?!?! :patsch I was fuming :lol:

    And yes mate I'm a massive fan. Can't wait to see who Walt is taking down with that gun...hope it's not Hank!!!
     
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  10. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    :lol: Yeah, me too :yep
     
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  11. The Mighty One

    The Mighty One Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oh....okay now I understand.

    So then who is the greatest P4P NBA basketball team?.....NFL football team?..... NHL hockey team?..... In fact which country has the greatest P4P armed forces?

    Only in boxing do we project that a 112 pounder can beat a 200 pounder in one on one competition.
     
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    For lack of high-level competition?
     
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  13. Flea Man

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    Look at the best names he beat. Weren't at their best.
     
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    I agree, just curious on exactly why you thought so.
     
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  15. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    On his best night, Hagler was great and I like him as a person more than just about any boxer. I feel like his place falls off a lot if it isn't a discussion of best middleweights or best chins though. Plenty of fighters who jump weightclasses have equalled or exceeded his accomplishments, they just don't have the accomplishments in one weightclass.
     
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