My all time middleweight rankings. 3 parts.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Mendoza, Oct 19, 2015.


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  1. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    33 is middle of prime. If he keeps up his active pace yes he can but I have a feeling after he unifies he'll slow to two fights a year. He is going to need a rival and right now he has none. At least a perceived rival.
     
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  2. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    What Durability? Have you seen any of his matches? GGG simply walks through his opponents best shots without flinching.

    Better stated is this. He has never been down in over 360 pro and amateur fights, and his style is an aggressive one, meaning he's forcing the action, not covering up or using his legs to avoid it.
     
    Mendoza, Oct 25, 2015
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  3. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Which hard punchers has Golovkin beaten?
     
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  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I'll ask again.

    Who has beat on him to prompt these claims about durability, and which punchers have chin-checked him to make your claim that he has one of the best chins in boxing history anything but ludicrous?
     
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  5. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    GGG is a prime example of how bad fighters look good against even ****tier opponents.
     
    Mr.DagoWop, Oct 25, 2015
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  6. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    His chin looks pretty sound to me.

    Mendoza might be going a bit over the top here, and we don't know how he'll stand up to a seriously hard shot.

    But he had absolutely no respect for Murray's punches (Murry admittedly not being heavy handed) and he KO'd Geale about half a second after taking a flush shot to the jaw, all in the same motion.

    People talk about his power.

    I believe his chin is more of an asset.

    We won't know till he gets properly tagged by a proper banger.
     
    cuchulain, Oct 25, 2015
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  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    "a bit over the top"?

    He's described Golovkin's chin as the "best in history" at this weight.
     
    McGrain, Oct 25, 2015
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  8. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    His iron chin is based off taking a few shots from a feather duster who had a whopping 6 KO's to his name.

    And because of the Stevens fight in which he took no flush blows.

    He threw 'Mexican style ' out the window in front of Lemieux- a very middle of the road puncher.
     
    dinovelvet, Oct 25, 2015
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  9. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The bizarre thing about this thread is the absence of Hopkins, especially given the criteria. He's neck and neck with Hagler on all counts. Jones is the only guy listed who would clearly beat him.
     
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  10. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    No Hopkins and GGG at #5:rofl

    He doesn't rank above Arthur Abraham in my book.

    12 defences of the IBF MW Title - no mickey mouse regular paper straps.
     
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  11. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    GGG is definitely not packing glass by any means but it's clearly too soon to say if he has an iron chin. I have a feeling we will never know unless he gets into wars with Quillin and Jacobs who can actually bang. Despite what a lot think.
     
    Mr.DagoWop, Oct 25, 2015
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  12. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Watch rounds 5 and 6 from his last fight vs a puncher! Lemieux can punch and landed flush shots. GGG wasn't bothered. In other fights when his opponent lands their best he walks though it and continues to press it, McGrain.

    You do not see him losing balance, covering up, retreating, or clinching. Fighters do this when they are hurt!

    GGG has never been down in 350 plus fights! That does not happen unless you have an iron chin.

    What else do you need to see?!
     
    Mendoza, Oct 25, 2015
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  13. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Correct. McGrain might acknowledge some points. We shall see
     
    Mendoza, Oct 25, 2015
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  14. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Well, for example, I know that Jake LaMotta had one of the greatest chins of all time because I saw him take about 100 flush power punches from one of the greatest punchers of all time. I know **** Tiger had a great chin because he got hit by guys like Fernandez and Carter. You know, extremely hard, noted punchers, who had knocked out contenders. I know Eubank had a great chin because he took multiple flush bombs from top puncher Nigel Benn.

    Golovkin hasn't done anything even vaguely approaching any of this. Yes, his chin is almost certainly very good, but you have claimed it is one of the best of all time. You've claimed his chin is as good as LaMotta and Toney and Hagler.

    Now what i'm asking is: who was his Tommy Hearns? And you're answering Lemieux who hardly hit him at all by the way. Surely you know this is preposterous?
     
    McGrain, Oct 25, 2015
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  15. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Looks like McGrain didn't acknowledge any points, lol

    its true Mendoza, to say his chin is as good as Hagler at this point is still a bit much, its too early.
     
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