My all time middleweight rankings. 3 parts.

Sure.

http://www.boxingforum24.com/showpost.php?p=17510684&postcount=1

"The man looks to have the best chin and power in the history of the division, and he's also technically sound."

Are you crazy? He has punching stoppages of LaMotta and Fullmer, the only man in possession of knockouts like that. You're saying that Golovkin has some of the best power in the history of the division but that Robinson was "not murderous" and he has knockouts over guys that were otherwise close to impossible to stop!

Holy god.

Mendoza, what the hell are you talking about?

wtf. wtf are you talking about. You are like someone who has actually lost it. Golovkin has proven his chin ATG by fighting a bunch of amateurs and decent pros, but Hagler didn't have his chin tested when he was absorbing multiple power bombs from Thomas Hearns??

I honestly don't know what to say to you right now.

:rofl

Why??? It was an average, one-sided contest of a very good fighter over a very, very average one.

Mendoza, are you drunk? Lemieux landed "4 or 5 shots" so he has chin-checked Golovkin to ATG status...but Thomas Hearns "didn't last long enough" to test Hagler's chin despite that he landed many more punches, all of them better shots in the first round.

God. Damn.

 

Ok, but that's not what you said. If I say "Scarlett Johansson has the best t1ts and @ss in the history of Holywood" i mean that, not that she has some weird made-up combined t&a ranking

If you don't believe this, it is healthier for you; regardless, this "combined power/chin GOAT" thing is still very unhealthy and odd.

I don't get buried on this forum.

Golovkin may hit harder than Sugar Ray but it's totally unproven. Best shot for best shot at the moment it is literally impossible to pick Golovkin. To equal him, Golovkin would have to score a one-punch knockout over an ATG chin. I don't think Golovkin is that kind of puncher.

I think Golovkin is a threshold puncher, a guy who nearly hits that hard but with far greater consistency; that is, he has steam on everything. Because, technically, he is very sound, he lands a lot bot not to prohibitive affect. While he clearly hurts with every blow he lands, the eleven rounds he took to force the Murray stoppage seemed odd to me - as did the fact that it took him longer to stop Lemieux than Marco Antonio Rubio.

Golovkin was beating on Lemieux. He was beating on Murray. These weren't defensive specialists getting by on slicks. These were guys being force-fed punches for round after round.

Of course, Golovkin might continue to KO ranked opposition in which case, yes, he will be deemed an ATG puncher. But it is fact that most of his KOs since moving up in class have come via attrition, not KO blows. He wears guys down Hagler style, he's not blasting them out Jackson style.

I say that this idea you have of ATG power is unproven.

And it's far, far more reasonable than the pap you are spouting about his chin. Chins needed to be tested before they pass into world class.

Based upon film, Robinson is clearly the harder puncher with one shot.

So what? What you appear to be saying is that because Hearns hit Hagler with massive bombs in a very short period of time they aren't valid or something. What you are saying makes literally no sense and shows a terrible mis-understanding of what punch resistance is and/or awful bias.

There are loads and LOADS of guys who have PROVEN they can hold better punchers than Golovkin. Literally loads. Dozens and dozens. Does that mean they all have better chins than him? No, but we have to wait and see! Ffs! He's hardly been in any competitive professional fights and you are trying to place him alongside LaMotta! But at best that is guesswork and at worse that is bias. You want it to be true so you are spouting it.

It's bizarre and a bit weird.