My American friends: If Mr. Joe Calzaghe shut-out Mikkel Kessler...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by China_hand_Joe, Jul 13, 2007.


  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Damn right! He won't! Not even by JC! It won't happen, China Joe!
     
  2. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    A self-professed communist, manipulating?:shock:
     
  3. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Even if he win (which is pretty hard to predict considering the opposition) I just can't see how he can be ranked in the Top 3 P4P.

    Beating Lacy, Manfredo, Bika and an eventual Kessler isn't enough to be the best.
    Pacquiao, Wright and Floyd are by far the 3 best.

    And about the decade's best... well, no need to argument this one, Calzaghe is no where near a De La Hoya, Whitaker, Lewis, Trinidad, Hopkins in a best-of-the-decade contest.
     
  4. China_hand_Joe

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    We are talking in terms of actual boxing (and fighting) ability in the ring. Winky endless resume is irrelevant if Joe has proven himself to be a godlike fighter.
     
  5. Decebal

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    Sorry, China Joe, that was out of order. I know you are not really a communist...you like professional boxing!:D
     
  6. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I like the standard of athleticism, not the extreme capitalist structuring of it, nor the ignorant and self-defeating attitude of materialistically driven boxers.
     
  7. bigG

    bigG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    joe will handle kessler relatively easily.....and prove himself to be the best british boxer of modern times......world p for p....???....top 5....
     
  8. Decebal

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    Are you by chance saying that it might take a capitalist structure to bring the best out of an athlete?:scaredas:
     
  9. jyuza

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    Oh well, Joe does have very good boxing skills, no doubt about that.

    Jones Jr and PBF are way above him in terms of pure skills though.
     
  10. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    By the time you had replied I had ellaborated on the original content of my post.
     
  11. China_hand_Joe

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    Pure fighting ability. I don't think Floyd is on the same level as Joe and Jones as a complete trained physical and mental specimen. He is more technically skilled but even at 135 he wasn't as awe-inspiring as the other two names mentioned.
     
  12. Decebal

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    elaborated, yes, but not sufficiently to answer my question...and for good reasons too!

    If money were to play no part driving boxers to excel, we would all be fans of the amateur sport. Why are we disappointed when we hear there is a great Cuban boxer who won't/cannot turn pro? If the amateur game was as good as the pro game, we wouldn't care at all...

    China Joe, why does it take the capitalist structure to get the best out of boxers? Why is it not enough to pat them on the back and hang a medal round their necks?
     
  13. China_hand_Joe

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    Because they are ignorant with flawed ideals thanks to their upbringing in our capitalist society.
     
  14. Decebal

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    And yet it is a boxer like Joe C. who has played the money game better than most and has been criticised as a result that you consider the best! Money came first for Joe. This is probably the reason why he became so good in the first place. If he had been Cuban, he wouldn't have been as good...
     
  15. China_hand_Joe

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    If he had been a hardcore anti-capitalist he'd be not only one of the best but the greatest of all time having fought anyone and everyone for free, once he had sufficient saving to live off.