My American friends: If Mr. Joe Calzaghe shut-out Mikkel Kessler...

Not too many americans in this thread, specially reserved for their opinions on Europe's biggest fight ever...

 

Man, you just put Joe on the same line as Jones Jr.

Will you go there to watch the Kessler fight ? There is strong chance that I will go myself.

 

No, China Joe...the reason why Joe went for the money and not the best fights had very little to do with the "capitalist structure" and very much to do with the way he is as a human being. Sad but true. He is paying and will be paying after he retires BIG TIME in terms of opportunities lost to build an amazing legacy. Good thing is he doesn't MUCH care...money still probably comes first.

Sorry to hijack your thread...couldn't control myself...(because of the way I am, nothing wrong with the system!)

 

I will be happy to agree with you but for the life of me, I cannot see with what I have agreed!:think

 

Where are you ?

 

If Calzaghe shuts out Kessler then it will be clear that Kessler was only ever really a cab driver like every other fighter Joe has beaten except for Lacy who was just a little overhyped.

Joe will then fall off the p4p list.

 

Nevermind.

How far do you think you can plan something ?

 

Of course it is a good thing if the two of us are in agreement! Except that on this unfortunately we're not!

Everyone who was born and lives in a capitalist society is a product of that society, sure, but not all those "products" are the same as a "human being". Not all thse products would have made the choices that Joe did. Some would have said: I've made enough money, now I will try to make the best fights in search of glory and greatness and will put the monetary considerations second. It's not as if this would have meant he would have fought for free or would not have made hundreds of thousands of pounds a year! But Joe chose differently, going for £ first!

There are some Cuban fighters who despite not being a product of the capitalist society do their outmost to flee to the West to fight professionally to make money, even though in their own country they would have unequalled status and public affection and would be considered heroes by all. Why? Surely it has to do with the way they are personally, as human beings, and little to do with the system.

Joe cannot blame the system on the choices he made as a result of which his legacy will suffer. Sad but true. This is why I go on about Bute having to gun for the best/dare to be great, etc. etc. If he fails to live up to my ideals, I will drop him like a hot potato. Does that make me a boxing fan? Maybe not, but in that case, I don't so much care, because in life it's more important to be a great human being than a great boxer. :good

 

Sorry to interrupt but I have to say that your still a boxing fan even if you drop Bute. I'm a big Calzaghe fan, but i'm a boxing fan first and foremost. When Calzaghe retires i'm still gonna watch boxing. Who knows, maybe Bute will become my favoutie fighter then:yep