My American friends: It is endearing, your excitement about SSM - Cotto.

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  1. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But it is an utterly pointless fight. Let me be the first to pre-emptively congratulate Cotto on his win.

    Sure American Sugar Shane can make it interesting, but he won't win. That is a silly idea. He is an old man who lost rounds to a shot Vargas. Do Americans really think Shane went swimming in the fountain of youth before the Collazo fight?

    Shanes record, against the elite, in his hey-day was 50/50ish (or worse). Now Cotto is elite, and Shane a decrepit old man now. Shane, stylistically is up against a come forward pressure fighter, not particularly good news either.

    Most important of all. Shane is not Joe Calzaghe. Only legendary legends like Calzaghe have a chance against elite, talented, undefeated, prime fighters like Cotto and Kessler.

    Shane is basically doomed. The fact I have made this prediction practically seals that. Only Americans and Americanised-Europeans/Asians/Africans/Aussies would disagree.
     
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  2. jonesjrp4p1

    jonesjrp4p1 16 yr old prodigy Full Member

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    :lol: :lol: ur the man :lol: :lol:



    funniest poster on esb by far
     
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  3. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Forgive the guy buddy . . . he has 6 thousand plus posts . . . all about how great CALZAGHE is. :rofl

    For this guy boxing is all about Calzaghe. :yep:D

    :good
     
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  4. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Out of curiosity, would I fit your category of an americanised Aussie? I totally agree that Cotto will win, but Shane is still a good fighter, with wins over prime oscar, and is a very crafty veteran, who was sharp in his last fight. If guys like Malignaggi and Urkal can frustrate Cotto at times, Shane will surely do the same to an extent, although I think Cotto has the tools to defeat him.
     
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  5. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :lol:
     
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  6. H .

    H . Boxing Junkie banned

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    :lol:
     
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  7. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How many episodes of Miami Vice have you watched?

    Shane is good enough to frustrate him for a while no doubt. Cotto is very open to being frustrated for prolonged periods by vastly inferior fighters. But while Shane is frustrating him, Cotto will be dealing out damage. He gets them all in the end.
     
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  8. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    I was thinking you opinion would be based on my views of the p4p ratings system, and the way I analyise a fighters ability, more so then how many episodes of Miami Vice I have seen. But to answer your some what rhetorical question, ZERO. I agree with your analysis of the fight BTW, I think it is spot on.
     
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  9. jonesjrp4p1

    jonesjrp4p1 16 yr old prodigy Full Member

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  10. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol: :happy
     
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  11. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    :yep He'll probably say yes... once he realises how highly you rate the the current versions of Hops, Wright, not to mention the terrible Taylor (and how said fighters would do against Kessler, Calzaghe and Mundine :D). Though Taylor has a shot though in his next fight, Pavlik isn't as great as advertised, fought a very smart fight against Miranda, but then smart and skilled are two different things and Pavlik isn't exactly refined :think
     
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  12. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hello mate.

    Do you just assume what I have posted is annoying tripe and critise me on instinct?

    As you'll be giving the same negative feedback anyway, perhaps we could make it easier for you, do it the other way round. You could post the critisism before I even say anything, like so:

    Sweatpea: You are an annoying moron China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe: Contrary to popular mythology, Joe Calzaghe is more evasive than Willie Pep was.
     
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  13. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Some of his stuff is genuinelly well thought out and funny. Considering it is a boxing forum, and humour is rarely found, it is good sometimes to see a poster who can not take themselves so seriously. There are other times though were people DO NOT realise that he simply as very un conventional views on many boxing issues, and take it as a joke, when it is clearly not meant to be. I get frustrated seeing people misinterperate his posts as humour, or simply laugh becaue it is popular opinion that he is the resident comic genius on these boards. Still, that said, I like him as a poster, and think he brings diversity to the boards. If he were not here Pea, you would have never have had so many great discussions on boxing due to your conflicting views.
     
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  14. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Now see that was funny:lol::lol::lol:
     
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  15. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not pointless from an entertainment point of view. But from the way we can almost assume the result. The same way we can justify Calzaghe's greatness with his assumed win over James Toney perhaps.

    Fights just seem more meaningful when their is a real question about whom the winner will be.
     
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