My American friends: It is endearing, your excitement about SSM - Cotto.

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  1. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    You would need to first post a notification of your incoming post to allow this however.
     
  2. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    I think Cintron would have a better chance of beating Cotto... Cottos' punch resistance seems to have improved with the move up in weight, but it's still not good enough to handle that sort of power :bbb

    Edit; Don't take it so personally Sweet Pea, serious or not, it's done in good humour after all.
     
  3. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Where people rank Hopkins is a useful indicator of how Americanised someone is in the context of being a boxing fan.
     
  4. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    True, but Cintron got starched by Margarito, who probably has less overall power than Cotto. He may get starched first. Though with Steward in his corner, there is a chance he may have rectified that issue.
     
  5. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    Margarito grinded out that win due to his toughness, Cotto won't be doing the same thing, it'll look more like a hot shoe shuffle followed by a brief siesta :yep
     
  6. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have no problem with you mate. Apart from your old school fighter bias, you are a solid poster. And I am honored to be able to educate you about the sport.

    About the old-school - modern fighter thing. I may finally have found a statistic, a meaningful one that almost categorically proves me to be correct.

    Now I haven't looked into the numbers yet, but I am assuming they will be there when I get round to the data mining. It is safe to say Bert Sugar will want me dead once I publish my findings.
     
  7. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look up mate.
     
  8. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Margarito stopped him in 5. Not much of a grind there.
     
  9. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    They traded and Marg won due to toughness, that's all i'm conveying... something Cotto won't be doing :p
     
  10. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I dunno, think it would be a good scrap. Not sure who would win. But I gather that Cotto might surprise you a bit.
     
  11. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My insight is strong enough to qualify me to make many assumptions, like the ones being discussed. Prime Calzaghe (80+-20% chance) vs Jones (20+-20% chance)is the only fight I need to actually witness, also the upcoming shot Calzaghe vs prime ATG Kessler. They are tricky to pick a winner in.
     
  12. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As long as you don't assume that win over Jones, we're even stevens:deal:bbb
     
  13. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    Cotto can beat a lot of top guys (Mosely, Clottey, possibly Williams, tough match up though), he's a very good fighter and his resume is underrated imo, he doesn't get enough credit for beating someone like Abdullaev. It's just the way these two guys match up, Cintron is too murderous a puncher, and isn't wild or telegraphed enough to not land some shots, imo opinion it'll end to early for Cottos' better boxing, and bodywork to come into it.
     
  14. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney could be outboxed and would have trouble witrh Joe's speed. Toney would need a KO and Joe is too resiliant. Toney's defences is pointless when he is being outpointed regardless.
     
  15. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Exactly. Cotto is superior in almost every facet of the game to Cintron. Anyone who picks a fight on a "punchers chance" is short sighted IMO. Still, this would always be a dangerous fight for Cotto because of his power. I would still pick Cotto to take it though.