My American friends: It is endearing, your excitement about SSM - Cotto.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by China_hand_Joe, Sep 18, 2007.


  1. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Looking into it.
     
  2. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    That not racism though, a country (particularly the U.S) isn't necessarily a race. It's no biggie either, plenty of ultra nationalist Americans out there, it's nice to have someone that counterbalances that. Besides, you can't ban someone because his opinion grates you, what kind of **** weak attitude is that? Put him on your ignore list if you dislike him so much.
     
  3. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    Check the legal definition of racism dip****. Ethnicity, nationality and or skin color can all be forms of racism.

    Singling out groups of people because of their national origin fits the UN definition of racial discrimination.
     
  4. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Racism is only ethnic bias. An 'American' is not defined as a 'race', there are many 'races' that are 'Americans'.

    He is nationalistically biased, to an insane degree, but he has never exhibited 'racism'.

    Go back to bed, it's late.
     
  5. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    Like I said, the legal definition of racial discrimination includes national origin.

    Doesn't always have to be based on skin color, but you can't tell me how being nationalistically biased to the extreme is any different than being racist.

    Saying I hate all Brits is no different than saying I hate all blacks. Go ahead and be proud of your home country, nothing wrong with that, but when you go out of your way to talk **** about another country and make broad generalizations about said country you are no better than a racist bigot.
     
  6. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    Blocky hates danes, but not ie swedes, norwegians, nor germans. They all belong to the same race; its nationalitic hatred on his part.
     
  7. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Enough of this bull****...Cotto v. Mosley is going to be a hell of a fight with a lot of significance.
     
  8. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    I don't think anybody agrees that nationalistic bias is as bad as racism, so I don't think any of this really matters at the end of the day :think

    It's not like CHJ is an arse like Arran either, so you won't get him banned, you may as well forget about it.
     
  9. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    Racism is a catch-all term to imply prejudice against another group of people based solely upon where they are from or how they look, it doesn't have to be just skin color, but that's the most common use of the term. It can also include country of origin, ethnicity, etc.
     
  10. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    Completely untrue.

    Hatred is hatred, prejudice is prejudice.
     
  11. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How sad....& you are really trying. Your post is just entertaining at best but ultimately lacks any validity at all. You have a warped view of the fighters you mentioned.
    The simple fact that you would even think Joe is somehow superior to Shane is comical. The only one area Joe has over Shane is Joe is undefeated. Shane wipes his ass with Joe when comparing every other category that one can possibly imagine pertaining to this sport.

    Comp, skills, AM credentials, titles, Money..... That's only scratching the surface. & I like Joe. I honestly do. I'm just not walking around with a hard on for the guy like some people. *China* Lets be real. Joe is a waste of talent. He could have been something a lot more relevant in the history books of boxing when joe hangs them up. Kessler won't do jack for Joe's legacy. Just like all the other guys that were fed to Joe to get to that really pretty undefeated record that he is sporting. Kessler is the best available opposition to Joe's crown but lets be honest. Kessler isn't Joe.
    Kesslers not even a Cotto & that's not knocking either of the younger champions....They just aren't on the talent, skill or experience level that BOTH Shane & Joe are sitting on, even in their advanced age. Although you will get the correct pick in the Joe C vs Kessler match up, it won't be credited to your abundant knowledge & understanding of the sweet science....No, unfortunately for you its just because you are one of the many "nut huggers" that frequent this message board. So I do understand why you come off borderline ******ed. That may be a bit harsh so please know I meant that the nicest why possible. With that said,you'd pick Joe over a fish in a contest of who could hold their breathe longer.

    Joe vs Kessler is a pretty easy one to pick but Shane will also come out with a "W" over the younger lion. Cotto, I believe offers the stiffer challenge when comparing the younger combatants in the two fights, but what's new? Joe made his entire career fighting competition who never really posed a viable threat to his WBO title. Kessler is however a step in the right direction.

    I know this maybe bit too much for you to register in your limited mental capacity but you've got a lot to learn & by the looks of what you posted it doesn't look at all promising for you sonny.
    Don't give up though. Boxing is the greatest sport in the world & I'd never try to push someone away from enjoying it, but you do need ALOT ......I mean A LOT of brushing up to do.....**** it, start from scratch! You need to be re-programmed if that is somehow possible. But good luck China hand joe....that's a great name by the way. You're gonna need it.
     
  12. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Nice post and all but don't expect a fool like that to read it nor understand anything you're saying, this fool is just a flamer and got his final warning already.
     
  13. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    Meh, well i'm not arguing it any further, don't think people here feel the same way, i'll leave it at that :good
     
  14. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    I disagree there. Racism is when you hate a race, regardless where they are born. Its pretty much in the word; Racism. So if it was racism, they would hate all from the same race, not just some nations or one nation of that race.

    America consists of many races...
     
  15. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    No one has had Calzaghe's number. Comp means ****, if you acknowledge skill. The money thing is just a laughable point - come on - wtf is that? I really like Shane, I really do. They are both skilled elites, but how do you think that Shane would ever beat a SMW?

    I am not really caring about going into your assesment on Kessler. I just acknowledge that Cotto is also an elite, even if he is no more proven than Kessler. And that is FACT.