My American friends: It is endearing, your excitement about SSM - Cotto.

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  1. hmi

    hmi Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Back to the Cotto-SSM fight. I think Cotto will destroy SSM. After that, he will go up in weight to destroy Calzaghe. :!:
     
  2. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOL! Ah yes......the "americanized view". The person or boxing fan that holds Joe C with higher regards in the context of boxing career is probaly suffering from one of the most serious cases of mental ******ation & should think about assisted suicide.

    "assisted" only bc you probably would get that right either in you prsent state. jk......don't go trying to find some one to take you out no matter how tempting the thought.
     
  3. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    Go ahead and not read my posts, it's okay. I'm not going to quote the legal definition of racial discrimination again... it's just not worth it, if you're not going to listen.
     
  4. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Calm down there fella. I was merely listing a few random categories that came to mind that Shane has over Joe. You are right. Comp does mean Jack if one acknowledges skill. But we can only gauge a fighters greatness based on whom they faught and how the preformed. Joe shows flashes of boxing brillance & that's why trrue boxing fans know his potential......when you don't test you talent & when you don't test your skill you never know if you are a GREAT FIGHTER! You may know that Joe has Great skill & A great boxer but his "Greatness" is in question bc he never tried to fight the fighters that would pose risk. Shane there is no questioning his greatness bc he's preformed & put himself in there with all the best fighters in his era....hence some of the "L's" on his record. Just bc Joe has 0 losses doesn't mean **** & hardcore boxing fans know this.

    Oh yeah......I wasn't even going to entertain your one comment about thinking about how Shane would beat a SMW, But whatdafuxup with that? Why would such a thought cross your mind? I mean......why would shane fight at such a high weight when 154 was too big for his frame.
     
  5. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know but I had to at least try to enlighten the guy....Its clear he needs some kind of help. Tough love & kicking the loon out might be the only option.....I wouldn't be mad atch Scar. do what you have to.
     
  6. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    YOu have that backwards. Skill is **** if it's wasted on sub-par comp.
     
  7. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nobody has any reason to critique the analysis.

    A simple one is all that is needed.

    1. Mosely struggled with the elite in his prime.
    2. He is past his prime.
    3. Cotto is elite and in his prime.
    4. Neither fighter is up against a style they particularly struggle or do well against.

    Cotto wins.


    Then people come in disputing this. They ignore Mosley's current state after getting carried away about the Collazo fight. Their main argument is what about Shane's resume! How is his resume from 5 years ago going to help him now, against Cotto -questionmark-


    It will be an entertaining fight, but just like Oscar - Floyd the result is a given (I am aware that was a SD, but the scores shoulds have been 10-2, 9-3 to Mayweather). Oscar had less chance than Mosely has now to win then. Though was still good enough to make it interesting for a little while (like Mosley can now). Mayweather outlanded him nearly 2-1.
     
  8. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, I would guess that some would say that 50/50 vs ELITE fighters is a shitload better then that O/O that your hero Calzaghe is sporting:hi:
     
  9. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It also highlights Shane's limitations.
     
  10. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah its really sad that his limit is fighing guys that started at weights that were three weight classes above the one that he started in. Its sad that a great little fighters lost to a great bigger fighter and a very good bigger fighter. However its really impressive that Cazlghe has fought absolutely NO ONE of note it damn near 50 fights.
     
  11. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto will beat Mosley, barring some kind of injury mate. I always get these predictions right.

    This one is nearly as simple as Peter vs Toney II.
     
  12. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Let's see who Mosley fought that gave him problems, as you said:

    Vernon Forrest (prime version) underrated, he was a genuinely awesome ww.
    Winky Wright (prime version) Mosley started at LW and jumped all the way to Light MW to take on Winky Wright who was considered ducked and dangerous!
    ODLH (beat him twice, the prime version of ODLH)

    Yeah he lost rounds to Fernando Vargas, but look at Vargas face and tell me who really won the fight, please.

    Now lets look at someone that has never struggled with an elite opponent, in Joe Calzaghe:

    Ok there ain't none elite in his resume, but lets take out some decent opponents.

    Jeff Lacy
    Robin Reid
    Chris Eubank (over the hill)
    Saiko Bika (laughable)
    Mario Veit (hehe, we know he's done nothing after his first loss to your man)
    Peter Manfredo (lol......)


    Please, don't pretend as though Calzaghe has faced better opponents then Shane Mosley, or in fact have ever been close to fighting anyone with the skills of ODLH/Winky/Forrest.
    Your fighter faced less than elite in Robin Reid and got away with a split decision, fought Saiko Bika the crude clubfighter and struggled!, and yet you're here saying "The only one that can deal with ELITEs at this point is Joe"
    Your entire post makes me laugh, if you want to bash on a fighter, take the ones that has done less then your man Joe, because you look like a fool.
     
  13. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe - Kessler is 50-50 mate.

    How on earth will Calzaghe's resume help Mosley beat Cotto -questionmark-


    It will soon be apparrent, based on his talent and abiility (not resume), Calzaghe is the better fighter though.
     
  14. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    This boy is a joke :lol: CEO of Bull****! :yep
     
  15. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    CHJ I'm just impressed by the mere fact you started a thread that only referenced JC once in the opening post. :yep :good