My Article On Hopkins

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  1. BIGTIMETIMMY

    BIGTIMETIMMY ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    So what you are saying is Joe Calzaghe also Disgraced himself and the sport of boxing?
     
  2. Geoffers

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    I'm saying that Mr Calzaghe did his bit...his own low blows and so forth. But Mr Hopkins has to pick up the lion's share of the blame.

    Consider - in what other major sport would cheating on the scale we saw on Saturday be tolerated in a major final? Golf, tennis, MMA, soccer, athletics, NFL? I suggest that only boxing tolerates such blatant bad sportsmanship. Where's the good in that? Why aren't true boxing fans up in arms?
     
  3. teeto

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    Man , you cant be negative like this, im from the North-west of England and white and the white-boy comment never bothered me 1 bit.

    You said that comment detracts from Hopkin's legacy????????????? What????????? The man's story is amazing to say the very least, he's one of the greatest MWs ever, one of the cleverest p4p, and a great, great man.

    Please dont talk like this again.
     
  4. BIGTIMETIMMY

    BIGTIMETIMMY ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    True Boxing fans apprieciate the science of it all we do not aprriecate the commercialized **** but anway you first post puts full blame on hopkins then you say calzaghe had a part in it too. Then you say both of them but mostly BHOP. BHOP wasn't the one who admitted to purposely low blowing his oppenent but because Calzaghe did it it is cool. The problem with boxing is fnas like yourself who make big deals about little thing and ***** about them. That is why my friends I am saying you act like a little *****.
     
  5. Geoffers

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    Isn't it lucky for me that I don't value your opinion?
     
  6. BIGTIMETIMMY

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    so does that mean we aren't friends?
     
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  8. charlievint

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    Ah....my good man it seems you are part of te general public that really don't know boxing. You may watch a fight here or there but if you're a true fan of the sport, the secience and the craft of Boxing then last Satrudays fight was not boring...it was a very tactical and well though out war plan implemented by both combatants.

    It may not have been Gatti Ward or Corrales Castillo but these were two VERY skilled and intelligent fighters looking to create traps and counter attacks throughout the whole fight.

    You sir...just didn't know what you were looking at... you thought it was a boring fight.:lol: Most casual fans did....but you look around, you see the true boxing fans who watched and they all saw an entertaining event and appreciate what both men brought. Two different styles that normally don't mesh well in terms of entertainment...but these two champions are so skilled that if you knew what you were looking at you couldn't help but appreciate the sweet science. Period.:hey
     
  9. charlievint

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    Look...this is a physical sport...even in Football fouls and improper tatics are let go at times. What Joe did was FOUL but to make a major statement.

    Bhop was all about mind games leading up to the fight. Joe in the fight figured out quickly that Bhop was not only very crafty and great at mental warfare..but he had to get Hops Respect or Attention earlier...After the KD from Hopkins Joe wanted to make a statment and he did.

    Joe wanted to let Hop know that he would also do what was necessary to win and I think that was the right thing to do in order to get the respect of hopkins and help him win.
     
  10. BIGTIMETIMMY

    BIGTIMETIMMY ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Thank you!
     
  11. Geoffers

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    And you illustrate my point, sir. If your sport cannot appeal to the casual fan then why should it continue to enjoy mainstream success? Denigrate me all you wish. It is I, and the millions like me, that pay the bills. Annoy us at your peril.
     
  12. BIGTIMETIMMY

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    Mainstream Sucess? Most of us have to watch the best fights on internet feeds because they are not well known names. If we had mainsteam success we would have a Boxing Network or Boxing on Demand and not what HBO and Showtime want to show.
     
  13. Geoffers

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    And why do you think that is? And what did Saturday's fight accomplish to address the problem?
     
  14. charlievint

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    lol.....I see your angle but you are only seeing your side and not the entire spectrum. If all fights in boxing were like this then YES....Boxing would be in trouble.

    Casual fans need "fan friendly" fights like Vazquez/Marquez, Castillo/Corrales and Gatti/Ward....and there are plenty. The point I was making was once you get to know boxing...the actaul sport and what to look for it's like an engineer watching how a device operates compared to you or me who don't have an extensive background in Engineering looking at the same device.

    It may look cool to us or it may be boring depending on the person....but that engineer sees the beauty...the science b/c he has a wider knowledge base of what he is looking at.

    If a casual boxing fan gets neck deep in boxing and starts to not only appreciate the excitiment but pays attention to detail regarding what fighters do while in the midst of battle there is no doubt the appreciation level will go up 10 fold.

    The thing with boxing is it's not really main stream anymore like the NBA or NFL...it's gaining momentum again which was lost during the weak period of the HW divsion. But the history and roots of boxing will be around forever. MMA may take it's place in popularity but boxing will always be around and always be a major sport.
     
  15. charlievint

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    Saturdays fight wasn't meant to save boxing b/c boxing is not in need of resuscitation. Last Satruday's event was for boxing as a sport. It needed to match two great fighters against one anther to get the bottom line of whom is better.

    We have other fighters and young hungry warriors in the sport that generate buzz, excitment and popularity for the sport. We've had some pretty amazing fights since the begining of 08 which has a lot to do with the late success boxing got at the end of 2007.