Correct me if I did some mistake about weight please..... HW Fedor Emialianenko Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira Mirko Cro Cop LHW Liddell Shogun Wanderlei Silva MW Anderson Silva Dan Henderson Murilo Bustamante (I really don´t know about this pick, I just don´t see the problem to consider Murilo greater than Franklin, I´ll stay with Murilo here) WW George St Pierre Matt Hughes Pat Miletich (I am bit unconfortable with this pick) LW BJ Penn Gomi Frankie Edgar FW Jose Aldo Urijah Faber Mike Brown BW Dominick Cruz Miguel Torres Joseph Benavidez FW Yashuhriro Urushitani Mamoru Yamaguchi Jussier Formiga or McCall I don´t know tbh......actually I need to watch more carefully fights of Yamaguchi....
Yeah Id agree with that. Dont think he'll beat JJ, but doubt he'll make the same mistake with the H-Bomb again. Id favour him slightly in a rematch with Hendo, but who knows with these two And I stated earlier, if Jones beats Hendo then he'll be number 1 imo. And if Hendo beats Jones, then he'll be number one too. He's in the top 5 already in my list (left hom out of the top 3 by a ****s hair), adding a UFC strap to the PRIDE and Strikeforce belts will be a unique achievement and possibly cement his GOAT status over Fedor, GSP and Anderson
To the Shogun thing. He had just had ACL injury coming into the Forrest fight, and was comming off of more surgery, and a very long layoff when he fought Coleman. Considering the cirumstances, he obviously didn't take Forrest seriously, and paid for it dearly. Tho he fixed that in the rematch. The Coleman fight is one you gotta give him a little leway in. Yes, he was fighting an old shot fighter, but Shogun was rusty as hell and didn't have an ounce of cardio in him. He showed in the next fight against Chuck what he would look like without the rust. What Shogun did in 2005 alone, was enough to make him a legend. But he topped that by comming back from the Forrest loss, and 2 knee surgeries to beat Machida and win the LHW title. He also beat Machida with an injured knee. The guys he beat... Rampage ****. Arona KTFO Reem 2x. Machida KTFO.....tho it should be two wins IMO. Forrest KTFO. Chuck KTFO.....sure he was older but he looked just fine till he got sparked. Beat LIl Nog in an epic fight. To me, that is as good as you can get at LHW.
:good Diaz hasn't done **** at WW other than beat up BJ. His biggest win is over a much smaller Gomi at 160.
The Arona and Machida wins are huge when you look at them in the context that they took place. Ricardo had lost a close fight with Fedor and of course lost to that slam when they fought. In between he'd beaten Horn x 2, Wanderlei, Hendo, Ninja, and Sakuraba. A good run in anyone's books. And it's easy to forget that Shogun was the 1st guy to make Lyoto look human.
What he did to Arona was legendary. He treated him like a peice of **** after already fighting once. Shogun was in the zone. But people remember him losing to Jones, so that automatically makes him dog****, while it makes Jones the best ever. atsch And also the first guy to make him get sleepy.
KID Yamamoto > Faber, homie Best 145 lber in the world for the longest time plus he went to 155 and wrecked some ****
I did consider Kid, but I dont think he'd beat anyone in my top 3. Hatsu edged him out for longevity, Uriah has a better streak of wins and Aldo is Aldo
See, this is exactly what I mean about Shogun fans making excuse after excuse after excuse. He was fit and healthy enough to step into the cage, wasn't he? And Coleman was still a one-dimensional 44 year old who hadn't fought in more than 2 years, wasn't he? Bad performances from Shogun. Utterly dismissed and handwaved away as irrelevant. And if we're going to be talking injuries, then Forrest injured his shoulder before the first bout, aggravated it during the match, and had major surgery on it after the fight. And he still DOMINATED Shogun and submitted him, injury and all. Another excuse. "Didn't take Forrest seriously." atsch And he didn't "fix" anything in the rematch. Forrest's wife was going into labour with his first child as he was fighting, and Forrest knew it. That rematch means little at best for Shogun. :nono As you have to give him leeway in ALL his losses and under-par performances, it seems. :good Sure, he won and looked good, no excuses needed. :yep Yep, fantastic work no doubt. But is it enough to make him the LHW #1 ATG? Especially when the young up-and-comer brutalized him with such incredible ease? I agree he won both Machida fights, and they are very solid wins. But Forrest got the better of him over 2 fights. And Chuck was past it and could no longer take the punishment that his style demanded he be able to handle. Plus he lost a 5 round decision to a 40 year old blown-up middleweight. A p4p ATG for sure, probably top-5, but the 29 year old #1 ATG LHW should not have lost to Hendo. I mean, do you picture Henderson being at all competitive with Jones? :hat
