My best pick of Top-20 "Heavy" champs from 1887-2011. WORD!

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  1. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Again, all in all, Patty ranks as the greater overall fighter in history, but I think "The Spoon" would physically kick his ass in a fight.....

    I do take into account what the books state on a dude, however, I prefer judging one's worth on what type of ass he can romp..... In my birdseye view, I think Timmy Spoon stops Floyd Patty in his tracks for a TKO win in a time machine.....
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  2. MRBILL

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    Mate,

    I was born and raised there..... No biggie...... In fact, the place is vastly overrated.... It ain't as hot as many claim it is...... WORD!
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  3. MRBILL

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    Their is no way that Floyd Patty of 1960 / '61 and 190 to 194 pounds is going to handle a 6' 3" tall 220 pound 1983 to 1985 version of "The Spoon" in a 10 or 12 rounder....... No way......

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  4. MRBILL

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    You saw what Spoon did to Jorge L. Gonzalez back in 1996 didn't you? Same results.......

    Nick Valubum might own a better jab than Gonzalez, but Gonzalez had better power......... But "The Spoon" chopped down the tree up in New York........

    Spoon hammers Valubum.........:deal:bbb:thumbsup

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  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Johnson at number 3 is a "good, solid pick"? Really? I think it's an abomination.

    His title reign sucked. His best victory was over a fat alfalfa farmer who was a good heavyweight 5 years before. Other than that we have getting KD'd by a middle, getting befuddled by a lightheavy and settling for a draw, the mysterious injury and horrible showing during the Johnson fight and a decent victory over a shopworn Flynn.

    If that is third best championship to aspire to in the heavyweight division, there really must be a better sport to follow.
     
  6. MRBILL

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    Dude,

    Nick Valubum ain't any good.........:-(

    He's a huge stiff of a Hulk......:yep

    Tim Spoon in his heyday ('83-'86) is about 7" shorter and 100 pounds lighter, but several times the fighter and a much better whacker with the right hand than whatever Valubum can muster up......
    :deal

    During 1983 thru '86, Spoon dropped decisions to Larry Holmes and Pinklon Thomas and, looking a slob and bored shitless when he was smoked by Bones Smith in New York....... Spoon was a "Hot & Cold" fighter in his prime.... Still, when he was focused, he was the goods......
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  7. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Still not a top 20 champ.
    You really have some questionable lists.
     
  8. MRBILL

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    See.... People MISS the intention of the point / list..........

    Neither Tim Spoon or Nick Valubum are great champs....... But, as I claim, Tim Spoon was a damn good heavyweight with size, power and skill to make a dent in any era from 1887 thru to 2010.......

    Nick Valubum is the new Primo Carnera...... A hulk who can be slaughtered by much smaller but more skilled dude's....... Neither "Carnera & Valubum" is close to being top-20......

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  9. MRBILL

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    Well, people want to raise caine and state my guys' V.K. and W.K. have never fought or beat anybody good, but Nick Valubum's resume is not all that great, either..... In fact, its worse.....

    Valubum's resume is that of: "Ruiz, Owen Beck, Montell Barrett, Jameel McCline, Russ Chagaev, 47 year old Holy and David Haye."

    Holy really out-scored Nick in Swissville in 2008....

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  10. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Vitali at 7 is a joke. He is still not top 20 yet.
     
  11. MRBILL

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    Well, nobody..... Why? Cuz Valubum has been matched carefully... His team has taken very little risks.......

    Let Valubum fight V.K. later this year and we'll see----TIMBER with Valubum kissin' canvas......
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  12. MRBILL

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    Laugh if you will, but Al Sos is in way better shape, health and owns more soul than Nick Valubum does..........

    What Sos lacks in skills, he makes up for it in heart and conditioning..... Christ, Al Sos kinda' looks like a youthful Arnie Schwarz at a glance...... Not that Schwarz can box or fight for ****, but Gov. Schwarz is / was very strong.........

    WTF? Valubum has not gotten wasted cuz his comp is merely average and to his benefit....... The times where team "Bum" took any risks is were he unofficially and officially lost to "Holy and Haye." Can't you see that, dude???

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  13. MRBILL

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    As much as I recognize the talents of "Sullivan, Corbett and Fitz, I cannot find a place for them dude's in my top-20............ Top-30 is more like it.......

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  14. MRBILL

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    C'mon, B.E.......

    You know damn well Holy at age 46 deserved the win over Nick in that **** sparring session of 2008.......
    :think

    That decision was a political ass ****ing of Holy in Swissville.....:deal

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  15. Boggle

    Boggle Grozny State Of Mind Full Member

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    Aw, man. Here we go again with this. Why's everybody want to take it away from Niko? Why? Cause he's too good? So much hate on this forum.