My boy is fighting Adamek feb 6th

You know, I have always thought this man had talent. So from a supporter, two peices of advice:

1: Get in shape.

2: You are taking the wrong fights, man. You have always fought over your head. You need to have a phase in which you build yourself up, just like everyone else. You don't have to fight a Povetkin or an Adamek in every fight- take a a few Mclines, and Barrets first.

 

faster reactions and quicker hand speed?

that could mean a lot of things.

 

After Estrada, someone else like Oquendo calibur, than a good second rate fighter like Sam Peter or Alexander Dimitrenko

So far Adamek is picking pretty good opponents. good management on his part.

 

I have heard faster and quicker described as two different things.

Fast is raw athletic speed- the time it takes youto do a 4:40 or whatever.

Quick is more like mental speed- the time it takes you to adjust.

 

Strong rumours of a fight against Haye in July on HBO.Adamek is popular and a moneymaker. Right or wrong, he won't have to clear many contenders to get a belt shot. After Estrada I wouldnt be surprised if he lands a big fight with Haye.

 

true, and i think its a bad thing....

but than again, its only David Haye tho... Adamek pretty much whoops his ass based on chin and power alone, but if he wants to go after one of the Klits hes going to have to follow the road as i explained cause I dont see either one of the Klits losing to anyone anytime soon.

 

Agreed.

With the other statement i dont necessarily agree. Sure Haye has been hyped to death, but the ******* is also as powerful and tenacious as Adamek. Its not clear whether Adamek's chin can be the deciding factor against Haye's speed and power, since Haye may still be able to stun him and then overwhelm him with speed and volume for a TKO.....just a possibility. As far as the Klits...........Adamek is aware........that's why he already passed up on a chance to fight Wlad.

 

You really think so? I would say Haye is at least as poweful, and if he does not have the chin, has better hand speed and is more naturally a heavy.

I pick Adaemk too, but I see it as a 60-40 proposition.

 

a 60-40 prop if Adamek fights him now due to inexperience at the HW division. Adamek has only 2 fights at HW vs. very weak opponents.

After the Estrada performance, the 60-40 may change... and if Adamek beats somone like Oquendo and Peter next, it would clearly be much more higher for Adamek.

Only reason this fight would be 60/40 now, is because of the esxperience level, Haye has the belt, although i think undeservingly but thats for another topic in another thread, so hes bound to be favorite.

Cunningham was a huge favorite too, even after Adamek dismantled Oniel Bell!

So this is more due to the fact on whats on paper, but when you see the diferences, they are both very simular with Adamek having the slight edge in grit, determination, chin, and heart...whikst Haye a slight in talent...and pretty much thats it.

All the things Adamek has are all vital especially in a Heavyweight Division.

Haye would get knocked out before the 10th imo.

 

Undeservedly? You think Valuev won? I acutally like Nikki, but I haven't heard too many say that he won.

In a sense, I will agree. Haye did everything he ccould avoid heavyweight challenges: Adamek seems to want them as soon as possible. All I am asaying is that the two men each have their natural physcial strenghts and weaknesses.

 

You've got to give Haye the speed though, unless that's what you meant by talent. Adamek's short punches sneak up on people, but they are not consistently as fast as Haye's.

 

I dont think either one of them won the fight.

It was like watching Virgill Hill vs. Firat Arslan

Haye didnt do enough to win the title.... thats all im saying.

if you look at the champions this past 5 years:

Maskaev, V. Klit, W. Klit, Briggs, Chagaev, Liakhovich, Brewster

sure, they might have "sucked"or "suck" now....but they all beat the reinging champion in a CONVINCING and un-arguable fashion, whilst Haye didn't.

For a so called "savior" he sure didnt earn that title like the guys above i mentioned did.

Old man Holyfeild and his experience were > Haye's "savior"

the **** outta here with this savior ****

Maskaev over Rahman, Klit over Peters, Briggs over Segiei, Sergei over Brewster, Chagaev over Valuev etc.. were all much more impressive title winning victorys than that "convincing win"Haye put on vs. Valuev haha.

 

Im sure Adamek can take a punch for a punch, which is how i see this matchup going down.

If this fight were to go down in Adamek taking a punch for giving a punch, Adamek would rule and knock Haye down in the long run.

Haye isnt awkward and as skilled as Dawson for Adamek to get into as trouble.

Dawson fought smart vs. Adamek, sides the last 3 rounds where he wanted to cruise. Dawson with his southpaw advantage beat the weight drained Adamek with not only the advantages he had, but the game plan him and Mayweather Sr. had.

Haye isnt the boxer type liek Dawson to trouble Adamek, hes more of a puncher and Adamek LOVES punchers (Ulrich, Briggs, Bell, Banks) and we all know what happened there....

 

Also, its interesting because if Adamek were to fight Wlodarczyk some day, Diablo is more of a technical puncher instead of a brawler type like them guys above mentioned !

But thats for another thread, lets see Diablo whoop Erdeis ass while Adamek, Estrada's!