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twofear · Nov 27, 2010

FORMIDABLE said: ↑

It's your opinion, but how does Martinez just come out of nowhere and take the number one spot from Pac on basically two fights? If Pavlik had beaten Martinez and knocked out Williams garauntee you no-one would have him number one. Realistically Martinez has a solidified himself in the top 3-5 p4p bracket.

If this is about the now, then why you bringing up Mayweather's last 3 fights? Hatton was 3 years ago. I don't see how he can overtake Pac aswell. Forget about titles, UDs over JMM with a 15-20lb size advantage, and Mosley does not beat destroying bigger opponents Hatton (KO), Cotto (KO), Clottey (UD), Margarito (UD) in the same time.
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thats his MO :deal

lefthandlead · Nov 27, 2010

It's your opinion, so it can't be wrong..... but the Pac and Mayweather lovers will cut you down.. They don't know that p4p can't really be proved.

ripper13 · Nov 28, 2010

no need for *****s pr *******s to come here, stupid logic is stupid.

Reilence · Nov 28, 2010

BS list.

bballchump11 · Nov 28, 2010

FORMIDABLE said: ↑

It's your opinion, but how does Martinez just come out of nowhere and take the number one spot from Pac on basically two fights? If Pavlik had beaten Martinez and knocked out Williams garauntee you no-one would have him number one. Realistically Martinez has a solidified himself in the top 3-5 p4p bracket.

If this is about the now, then why you bringing up Mayweather's last 3 fights? Hatton was 3 years ago. I don't see how he can overtake Pac aswell. Forget about titles, UDs over JMM with a 15-20lb size advantage, and Mosley does not beat destroying bigger opponents Hatton (KO), Cotto (KO), Clottey (UD), Margarito (UD) in the same time.
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Floyd fought the more skilled fighters

igor_otsky · Nov 28, 2010

ok, set aside pac and floyd if you want it, but juan manuel marquez is still better than martinez p4p-wise.

bballchump11 · Nov 28, 2010

igor_otsky said: ↑

ok, set aside pac and floyd if you want it, but juan manuel marquez is still better than martinez p4p-wise.
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I think so too, but I personally would have Sergio higher

FORMIDABLE · Nov 28, 2010

bballchump11 said: ↑

Floyd fought the more skilled fighters
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Mosley is not a skilled fighter. He's a strong puncher with fast hands. Cotto is way more skilled than him. As for the JMM fight, Larry Merchant put it best when he said today that fight was won when it was signed at 146.

ripper13 · Nov 28, 2010

FORMIDABLE said: ↑

Mosley is not a skilled fighter. He's a strong puncher with fast hands. Cotto is way more skilled than him. As for the JMM fight, Larry Merchant put it best when he said today that fight was won when it was signed at 146.
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maybe he's talking about Baldo...:roll:

mojobones · Nov 28, 2010

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First off I don't care if the guy is a 5 or 8 weight class world champion. This is about right now not their careers. If was about career than Jones and Hopkins would be ranked top 5. This is a what have they done recently list. This is also not a who would beat who list.

1. Sergio Martinez. I don't expect him to stay at the top of this list for long. If Mayweather and Pacquiao either fight each other or at least take some risk I'm mostly referring to Pacquiao hear. They will over take him. There are also some very good boxers at 140. If they face each other espicialy the winners of Khan/Maidana and Bradley/Alexander. We may have a new claim to the #1 spot. Martinez is a very good boxer who has had an outstanding 12 months. Losing a close decision to Paul Williams, beating Kelly Pavlik and stopping Williams in a rematch.
2. Floyd Mayweather Jr. When it comes to what a boxer can do in a boxing ring there is no one better these days. I don't think it is very close. His only weekness as far as his resume goes is his inactivity. He has only one fight in the past 12 months. A domanting win over than #3 P4P Shane Mosley. Mayweather's place in history is safe, but his ranking as a curent boxer is at a crossroad. We probbly wont know what is next if anything till after his hearing in January.
3. Manny Pacquio. Like Mayweather his place in history is safe. However Like Mayweather based on who he has been fighting he is not deserving of the top spot. Cotto, Clottey and Margarito are his last three fights. Non of them are anything that special. There is reason to believe that one of those guys wins were not on the up and up. Compare his last three to Martinez's last three and Mayweather's last three. Ricky Hatton, Juan Manuel Marquez and his resume dose not add up to theirs.
4. Juan Manuel Marquez. Outside of his three fights with Mayweather 0-1 and Pacquiao 0-1-1. Marquez has been as good as anyone . Plenty of people fell that he beat Pacquiao at least once in their two bouts.

5. Andre Ward. I don't think there is any question about his talent and versatility. He has a good resume. Had the super six worked out as planed he would have a better one Jermain Taylor > Allen Green and Andre Direll > Sakio Bika. However had he beat Taylor and Direll. I don't think he ranks hhigher than this.
6. Lucian Bute. I think he's better than Ward but not being a part of the super six hurts him or any one else at 168 that is not in it. The good news is that he recently left HBO for Showtime and boxers seem to be droping out of the S6 like flies. One way or another I think we see Ward/Bute soon.
7. Jean Pascal. Like Martinez I don't think he is hear for long. I think Bernard Hopkins is going to be too good for him, and I think his win over Chad Dawson was a one in a million win. He deserves the high profile fight with Hopkins but I would pick Dawson to win a rematch.
8. Wiadimir Klitchko. If this was the top 10 most exciting boxers he would not be on the list. He is however a very good boxer who is beating good opposition by wide margans.
9. Bernard Hopkins. Hopkins even at age 45 is still one of the sports most skilled and clever boxers. He's on the list for his win over Pavlik. However he is not ranked higher because his most recent wins are over Enrique Ornelas who is a decent middleweight in a light heavyweight match up and Roy Jones Jr. Who was comming off a first round ko loss. He should beat Passcal. An impressive win will put him back with the very best.
10. I'm leaving this spot open. There are a few guys who could be hear. I don't think anyone else deserves right now to be ratted as a pound for pound boxer. I'm not saying that everyone else sucks. In fact I fell that there are quite a few boxers who are on the verge of being on this list but just arn't there right now. They are either prospects or guys who are as good as anyone on the list but recently lost.
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So you are basing this BS list on what fighters have done recently ?

Then you put Lucian Bute in at number 6. Based on what ? It certainly cannot be on who he has fought recently.

Ward and Pascal are in there because of wins over Kessler and Dawson repectively ??? Erm....correct me if I'm wrong, but rating fighters by what they have done recently should mean the inclusion of Carl Froch....with wins over PASCAL, Taylor, Dirrell, AA and a close away loss to Kessler !!!

Your list appears to be your biased opinion not based on what "fighters have done recently".

p4p_kid · Nov 28, 2010

Disgusting thread. I just hope that your 5,832 posts are not like this. LMAO

VX.Nefarious · Nov 28, 2010

your opinion is pretty much ****
Montiel should be in there, **** wlad

DanishPride · Nov 28, 2010

nutnutnut

Man seriously the african community in the US are fecking nutz i dont know what drugs they taking but somethign is seriously clouding there minds

knotty150 · Nov 28, 2010

mojobones said: ↑

So you are basing this BS list on what fighters have done recently ?

Then you put Lucian Bute in at number 6. Based on what ? It certainly cannot be on who he has fought recently.

Ward and Pascal are in there because of wins over Kessler and Dawson repectively ??? Erm....correct me if I'm wrong, but rating fighters by what they have done recently should mean the inclusion of Carl Froch....with wins over PASCAL, Taylor, Dirrell, AA and a close away loss to Kessler !!!

Your list appears to be your biased opinion not based on what "fighters have done recently".
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+1

It is only opinion, but it is my opinion that the list is completely unjust and basically a load of bollox.

Martinez removed peoples doubts by battering Pavlik, then secured people attention by KO'ing Williams. That's a good reason to put someone like that on your list. However, given the nature of your list, how on EARTH can you leave out Froch?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Nobody in recent history has a recent resume as good as his, he's what boxing needs and if we had more fighters like Froch, the sport would benefit massively. Not putting him in your list just shows your lack of consideration when considering "recent resume" and just shows that your biased.

Mayweather got wins over Hatton, Marquez and Mosley.
Froch got wins over Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell and Abraham, a close loss to Kesssler.

Consider the context surrounding the bouts and your list really does suck. I might understand if it was just a "p4p list" but you've labelled it as something different...

pinzon · Nov 28, 2010

FORMIDABLE said: ↑

It's your opinion, but how does Martinez just come out of nowhere and take the number one spot from Pac on basically two fights? If Pavlik had beaten Martinez and knocked out Williams garauntee you no-one would have him number one. Realistically Martinez has a solidified himself in the top 3-5 p4p bracket.

If this is about the now, then why you bringing up Mayweather's last 3 fights? Hatton was 3 years ago. I don't see how he can overtake Pac aswell. Forget about titles, UDs over JMM with a 15-20lb size advantage, and Mosley does not beat destroying bigger opponents Hatton (KO), Cotto (KO), Clottey (UD), Margarito (UD) in the same time.
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This. Based on recent performance, say last 3 years. :rofl

Mayweather

Mosely
JMM
Hatton

Pacquiao

Margarito
Clottey
Cotto
Hatton
DLH
Diaz
JMM

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