My Current Pound-For-Pound List, as of July 2011

Money
JMM
B Hop
Pac
Vitali
Ward
Bute
Bradley
Donaire
Vladimir

 

popkins comments roughly translate to

"i absoloutely ****ing wrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeaaaaak of fear. I'm a spineless coward with a sick habit of posting pictures of mentally handicapped children because i think it will make people laugh"

"I'm so gutless that i may change my username again, and in the mean time i will sit here like a *****, crying to the mods in the vein hope that they give a **** about what a pissy, little, low life ducker like me thinks"

 

The list makes sense to me, but I was surprised not to see Hopkins in the top ten. Hopkins dismantled Kelly Pavlik and Pascal, who previously defeated unbeated top name Chad Dawson.

 

Wow, thats just ... totally awesome and impressive :good

 

1.PBF
2.Pac
3.JMM
4.Martinez
5.Hopkins
6.Donaire
7.Ward
8.Froch
9.Gamboa
10.Bradley

 

1 Pacquiao
2 Martinez
3 Donaire
4 Marquez
5 Wlad
6 Ward
7 Hopkins
8 Bradley
9 Vitali
10 Cotto

Mayweather will come back at nr2 and the rest moves down a spot IF he comes back and beats Ortiz, but he does not deserve to be ranked after such a bout of inactivity.

 

Well summed up.
Popkins gets all silly, and doesnt answer questions presented to him, just posts some irrelevent sh#t, and tries to back out of a subject that he has started. Then you get one of his 25 alts come on the thread

 

Unless one specifically doesn't rate heavyweights, I see zero justification for ranking Hopkins over Wlad. It's pound for pound, not age for age. Hopkins beating Pascal was great from a historic perspective, but it doesn't make him one of the 5 best active guys fighting right now. If Hopkins beating Pascal gets him from being unranked back into the top 5, where does that put Froch?

 

These lists are difficult to get perfectly right as you need a mixture of both resume and actual ability. Even though resume shoudl count the strongest - and even that is a matter of opinion because you could alway downgrade the fighters on one! - I just cannot ignore ability. Since people's criterias differ so much (how recent good wins? 1 year? 3 years? How much ability? How much emphasis on being linear? How much value is put on traveling? Undefeated? Being in multiple weight classes or erase ALL the threats in one division?) it's a bit off to **** on other posters lists. Well, unless they're terribly stupid and biased of course...

1. Pac
2. Martineez/Wlad
3. Wlad/Martinez
4. Donaire
5. JMM
6. Froch
7. Vitali
8. Ward
9. Nishoika
10. Hmmm... Bradley, Adamek, Khan or Gamboa. I think Gamboa is clearly superior h2h so he sneaks in. Hopkins has a shout too.

I don't need to do any reasoning for the top 5, I think. Interchangeable, except for Pac a number one.

Froch simply has so good of a run that I cannot ignore him. I thought he lost to Kessler and Dirrell but the fights were close and ANYBODY would have trouble with the fighters he's faced. Yes, even Ward and Bute. Ward will beat him but look for Froch to give him problems.

Vitali is the controversial one. I just think, much like MichiganWarrior in his superfighters thread, that Vitali h2h alongside Donaire, Pac and Mayweather are h2h the best fighters in the sport today. Martinez, Ward and Wlad are also good but they are beatable in a different way I feel. Vitali's run has been quite weak but Solis, Arreola, Gomez and Peter are decent. I could see arguments for even leaving older Klit out.

Ward has an excellent win over Kessler, a surprisingly close fight with Bika and solid near-shutout wins over Miranda and Abraham. H2h he's higher but need to prove it first. Has the tools to box outside and need to do it more. A Froch win would put ´him at #5. Need to leave Oakland and perhaps even go to Europe.

Nishoika is very underrated. He's very, very solid technically. Watch his fight with Munroe and see for yourselves. Munroe didn't really do much wrong and is solid but was just comprehensively outboxed and outclassed.

Bradley could be higher beacause he's had a good run. It's just something in his ability that prevents me from putting him there. Khan is higher I feel with shutouts over Malignaggi and Kotelnik (well, not really) and a win over a teaktough but inconsistent Maidana. Will beat Bradley. However, he's vulnerable too.

Gamboa's win over Salido looks better everyday - what a great, tough performance by Salido vs Lopez! Gamboa won wide on the scorecards (near-shutout on mine) and hurt Salido real good in the last round, which is hard. Yes, he will lose someday as everybody does but he has the tools to become great if he uses them right. Khan and especially Bradley hasn't.

Adamek should probably be in there but h2h I don't consider him that strong and he's recent opponents have been too weak. He drops out.

 

Props for mentioning Nishioka. He's an excellent all-around guy and I don't have a problem with him cracking the top 10.

His KO of Gonzalez on Jhonny's turf was great, too. I love his footwork when he throws that trademark straight left. He's so fast when he does it and resets, it's almost like he's gliding to get in the perfect spot for it to split his opponent's guard. Gonzalez isn't the first guy he's iced with that same move.

 

1. Floyd Mayweather-The best fighter in the world.

2. Manny Pacquiao- Distant second best fighter in the world. Will o the wisp skills. A typhoon.

3. Bernard Hopkins- The professor strikes again.

4. Sergio Martinez- Dominant last couple of fights.

5. Nonito Donaire- Superb ring skills. Brutally kod 2 top notch fighters. Needs big fight.

6. Andre Ward- Has not lost many rounds against tough comp.

7. Carl Froch- Beating top guys and looking clumsily perfect. Imo has never truly lost.

8. Wladimir Klitschsko- Hasn't lost since when???

9. Timothy Bradley- They say he can't punch, but he just keeps on winning.

10. Lucian Bute- Ko's controversey, and is stopping everyone in his path. Needs big fight.