My current Top 10 Heavyweights

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  1. Roam

    Roam Member Full Member

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    1. Vitali Klitschko
    2. Wladimir Klitschko
    3. Povetkin
    4. Adamek
    5. Dimitrenko
    6. Chagaev
    7. Helenius
    8. Perez
    9. Arreola
    10. Denis Boytsov
     
  2. hough17

    hough17 Member Full Member

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    delighted by the distinct lack of helenius in these lists.
     
  3. speck

    speck Milky Way Resident Full Member

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    1. Vitali
    2. Wlad
    3. Haye
    4. Povetkin
    5. Adamek
    6. Arreola
    7. Chambers
    8. Helenius
    9. Chisora
    10. Dimitrenko
     
  4. speck

    speck Milky Way Resident Full Member

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    Recency bias
     
  5. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    aka reality check
     
  6. speck

    speck Milky Way Resident Full Member

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    Extreme opinions (Helenius top 3 vs Helenius garbage) rarely constitute 'reality'.
     
  7. RazzAxx

    RazzAxx Active Member Full Member

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    That's a good list, but I do not understand what Haye has done to get above Povetkin. Chambers have not done too much winning in the heavy weight division lately either, right? Adamek is not a heavy weight and never will be so he drops off the list to the cruisers.

    1. Vitali
    2. Wlad
    3. Povetkin
    4. (Maybe) Haye (if he's not retired already)
    5. Helenius
    6. Chisora
    7. Dimitrenko
    8. Arreola
    9. Chambers
    10. Fury
     
  8. ludwig

    ludwig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not including Haye, he's retired.

    1. Wlad
    2. Vitali
    3. Povetkin
    4. Chambers
    5. Thompson
    6. Adamek
    7. Helenius
    8. Chagaev
    9. Arreola
    10. Dimitrenko
    11. Pulev
    12. Chisora
    13. Solis
    14. Ustinov
    15. Boystov
    16. Fury
    17. Lawrence
    18. Mormeck
    19. Mitchell
    20. Stiverne

    I'm reluctant to over-rate Chisora on the basis of one fight--I'm giving RH the benefit of the doubt that he actually broke his hand. I don't include Haye because he's "retired".
     
  9. Puksu

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    1. Wlad
    2. Vitali
    3. Povetkin
    4. Haye
    5. Chambers
    6. Adamek
    7. Helenius
    8. Arreola
    9. Dimitrenko
    10.Thopmson
     
  10. antonio8904

    antonio8904 Atheist Full Member

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    WTF is with morons on ESB who rate Tua? Why? Tua was trash, is trash and will always be trash. He couldn't beat ANYONE on that list today and you have him at 3? He isn't in the top 25!!! Chisora would beat him, **** Helenius would beat him...**** I'd take Fury over him...

    My bad mate, just realized you originally posted this 2.10.2010...
     
  11. Jimi

    Jimi Member Full Member

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    F'kin depressing.

    Tua wasn't even that good in his prime I'm afraid.
     
  12. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Helenius top 3 is an extreme opinion. Him losing to a bum is a fact.
     
  13. boxfan78

    boxfan78 New Member Full Member

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    My CURRENT top 10 based on activity, level of opposition and best wins:

    1. Vladimir Klitschko
    2. Vitali Klitschko
    3. Alexander Povetkin
    4. Eddie Chambers
    5. Tony Thompson
    6. Ruslan Chagaev
    7. Robert Helenius
    8. Tomasz Adamek
    9. Chris Arreola
    10. Alexander Dimitrenko
     
  14. I still have a soft spot in my heart for Tua. I'd love to see him cave in Wlad's chin in round one. I think he's still got a few good fights left. Povetkin don't want any!
     
  15. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    By the back end of the top 10, I kind of want to vomit. Current based more on resume than talent, but a mix, and Haye isn't rated because he's still officially retired.

    1 - Wlad
    2 - Vitali
    3 - Povetkin
    4 - Chambers
    5 - Adamek
    6 - Arreola
    7 - Tyson Fury
    8 - Kubrat Pulev
    9 - Franklin Lawrence
    10 - Dereck Chisora

    Helenius and Thompson probably come next. Chagaev hasn't done anything in years, so not sure why people are rating him. Same goes for Boytsov, who if anyone objectively looked at, people would realize that a lot of other prospects have lapped him at this point. Dimitrenko hasn't really done much of consequence either. It's sad that I'm rating a bunch of guys who are basically prospects at 7 - 10, but at least they've fought some decent guys and beaten them.

    Anyway, if I could cut off the top 10 at 6, I would. Those are the only six guys who deserve to be in it. Guys like Chagaev, Dimitrenko and Boytsov still keep getting rated, but that's from entropy as much as anything. People start rating them, don't know who else to rate, and just keep rating them even though they haven't shown that they're even decent in years.