My god how the hell did Povetkin knock out takam with one shot?

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  1. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    You keep saying that world Engine head only had trace amounts. He didn't have trace amounts for 3 tests, and now us gullible fans are supposed to believe that trace amounts in the 4th test in April wouldn't help him? It never occurred to you that he could've attempted to mask the Meldonium lol... How does trace amounts of Meldonium get into your system AFTER you passed 3 tests already?
     
  2. I knew wilder would make a excuse to avoid the fight it was too good to be true.

    Wilder made a big deal about it and the WBC never even confirmed what dan rafeal said so why do you take it as gospel?
     
  3. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    He was necking the Meldonium mixed water between rounds
     
  4. The Long Count

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    Listen Wilder has never been accused of taking the tough path to prove himself so we all knew when this situation arose he would cut and run.

    As for Povetkin I'll wait until the WBC concludes their investigation. Meldonium doesn't seem to be the serious PED many claim and it certaintly is not a steroid. I feel it was banned more for political reasons at this time. However he should of known better and IF it is proven he took it after January. I think he should have to pay Wilder for training expenses and maybe a fine. After That and being that Meldonium is not viewed as the same as anabolic steroids I hope the WBC reschedules the fight for later in the year.
     
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  6. BlizzyBlizz

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    Rafael broke the news, and Wilder didn't make any excuses.:patsch

    What did Rafael say that wasn't true lol? He's a reporter. He's always looking for the big story. You seem like you wanted this swept under the rug lmao. Naaaaah lol.
     
  7. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    The problem is he didn't cut and run. That's where you clowns seem to start making up lies about a man who lost a purse bid, 4 mil+, and an opportunity as the champion. And anything that falls under the guidelines of a PED is a PED. We don't want any fighter fighting anyone with trace amounts of ANYTHING. ANYTHING...!!!
     
  8. Marciano

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    Renember the Fight povetkin vs Klitschko or Marco Huck, povetkin was very Tired the last 4-5 rounds he was absolute Finish in that Fights The answer is clearly Meldonium! With Klitschko and Marco Huck It was not Possible because The Doping Control was Higher a high Risk for Team Povetkin he is a cheater. Meldonium gives you nonstop energy and you can go 15-18 round with power without Problems.
     
  9. dinovelvet

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    Some people just want to see Wilder lose so bad , they don't care if the guy to do it is juiced up to the eyeballz. These people ain't real boxing fans.
     
  10. BlizzyBlizz

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    :lol::good
     
  11. The Long Count

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    Actual tests on Meldonium so far have been inconclusive on performance enhancement. Also the pharmaceutical company that manufactures the drug said it does not give any additional benefit in athletic performance to someone who uses. The drug has been widely available for 5 decades now and was commonly used by Russian athletes. That's why when it was banned, only Russian and Eastern European athletes are testing positive for it. No one knows how long it takes to leave the system.
    This is a political response because Russia did alarmingly well in the last Olympics. Designed to hurt Russian athletes. I'm American and I can see this.
    As for Wilder I'm disappointed he lost his payday. I really am stepping in the ring is serious business, however I'm not a fan of his career and their is plenty of evidence that Wilder is being maneuvered to have the least risk possible in his career. Just look at his resume and his age. It's laughable for this stage of his career. I was looking forward to this fight
    And I hope it comes together as I feel Meldonium is being used as a scapegoat for Russian athletes in general to hurt their global impact on sports.
    Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I feel this matter falls into a gray area and should be treated differently than if he tested positive for stanozolol, or some synthetic steroid
     
  12. PIPO23

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    Peds, obviously...
     
  13. chitownfightfan

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    Nothing against Floyd, but VADA testing is BY far the strictest testing protocol thus far in sports.

    USADA doesn't even dig deeper on samples testing over 4:1 TIE, and in some cases, depending on the state commission, 6:1, like the NSAC.
    (Though I DO believe NSAC may have increased their standard to 4:1 in or around 2014???, but don't quote me on that).

    In other words, a fighter could be literally injecting human testosterone cypionate USP during camp, and maintaining levels as high as 5.9:1 so long as they don't go over that 6:1 ratio that set off their flags.

    Vada however, digs deeper on any samples higher than 1:1 of natural human testosterone levels, and of course, any synthetics of which a testing regent is up to date, those immediately trip their alarms.

    Now, guys like D H@LE Jr, who owns the nations largest chain of TRT clinics, of course he has private labs which monitor his "patients" levels, which are medically regulated to 1.6:1 soas your average banker who's not pumping iron, but only getting the boost to keep up with his 20 year old stripper, doesn't fly off into a roid rage.

    My own physician tested me in 2013 due to rapid muscle degeneration in my lower back, calves, thighs, and to some degree, shoulders and arms.
    He prescribed me that new Andro-gel, but due to being in the trades, sweat causes the gel patches to come off, so now, b/c I can't use the controlled release patches, I have to be given injections twice monthy to maintain .9-1.6:1 TIE levels.

    D H@LE Jr would have access to labs where close friends could have their levels tested daily to avoid being over the USADA's red flag #s or the NSAC's #s.

    Not saying Floyd is guilty, but the red flags are certainly there. :think
     
  14. james5000

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    Of course they would say that russian athletes are there biggest customers!!!
     
  15. The Long Count

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    interesting chitown fight fan