My god how the hell did Povetkin knock out takam with one shot?

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  1. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    WADA thinks that it was conclusive enough to ban it because athletes were abusing it. They often prescribed for it with lies, and the fact that too many Russians were using it. It's on the banned substance list so we can't talk like it's not a PED.
     
  2. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I guarantee Pervertking has been on a whole lot more than just Meldonium.
     
  3. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    The WADA has YET to provide evidence that this LEGAL substance available to athletes for over 50 years is any more effective than other legal supplements. What exactly do you NOT get? The facts are, it took the WADA 50 years to even consider banning this drug, and even during its ban it did not make available evidence that it is an unfair PED, they simply banned it because more Russian athletes were consuming it, this was an obvious political act, (WADA being a Western puppet).
     
  4. N17

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    Can you buy that over the counter? :think
     
  5. mirkofilipovic

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    This is Meldonium we are talking about here, not anabolic steroids. Also based on what do you conclude that Povetkin would have lost to Takam if he was NOT taking Meldonium? Povetkin is head and shoulders above Takam, your assertion is laughable. Takam was probably taking anabolic steroids in order to compete with the Russian, who was on a substance so fragile and ineffective in comparison to actual performance enhancing drugs that it took over 50 years in order to ban, and the WADA has YET to provide conclusive evidence that this drug warranted a ban. They banned it simply because more Russian athletes were using it than any other group of athletes, it was a political stunt, and this has also been talked about in news articles.
     
  6. Grooveongreg

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    If its so rubbish and not ped why take it?
     
  7. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Because it was a legal drug to use for over 50 years until the WADA decided to ban it, it does enhance your performance, but so do other legal substances and supplements. There is no evidence that this warranted a ban, or that this drug was unfair to use in competition, they should start banning other supplements and substances that are legal to use as well if this drug was banned, it sets a dangerous precedence if anything legal that athletes use to become athletically competitive is placed on the WADA prohibited list, next thing you know creatine will go on that list as well.
     
  8. On The Money

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    We don't know yet know if he took any after the ban on it in Jan. I doubt he did.
     
  9. BoxingGenius

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    Meldonium is worse than an anabolic steriod, it's a true performance enhancing drug, muscles are not as useful in boxing as stamina, with greater stamina you can do a lot more than you can with having a worthless muscular physique. YOU KNOW NOTHING. A doctor on in an interview in a news broadcast said Meldonium "turns athletes into the enegizer bunny" that's worse than any anabolic steriod, it means you don't tire as easily, that your stamina increases.... if it wasn't powerful as you say why the hell would PEDvetkin take it and risk losing everything as he has... because he knows it helps him not to tire and gives him increased stamina.... it's the sole reason he beat Takam.

    PEDvetkin is pathetic. A drug addict. C level boxer. He is only A level when he is on drugs. If he were A level without drugs.... THEN WHY DOES HE TAKE THEM? DUMBASS.

    your ascertion that Takam takes drugs is LAUGHABLE.... HE'S BEEN TESTED AND NOTHING FOUND.... DON'T MAKE UP BULL****

    THE FACTS ARE POVETKIN WAS TESTED AND IS FOUND TO BE DIRTY.... UNTIL TAKAM TEST DIRTY.... HE IS CLEAN.... SO ENOUGH OF THE BS

    THE ONLY DIRTY FIGHTERS ARE POVETKIN, TEPER AND THE AUSTRALIAN GUY WHOSE NAME ESCAPES ME.... AND ALL THE OTHERS PROVEN DIRTY.... TILL THEN DON'T MAKE UP LIES ABOUT FIGHTERS. STICK TO FACTS.
     
  10. BoxingGenius

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    Saying all that Takam is at best B level.... Parker is A level... and will get better.
     
  11. BoxingGenius

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    That is a lie!

    He took the banned substance AFTER.... for the millionth time! He tested negative in 3 test prior to the one he was found dirty which means he took 3 tests.... thought was in the clear and then decided to cheat and microdose the Meldonium to try and sneak it in....

    he was intentionally cheating! That's why no B test was asked for by him or his people.... they were intentionally cheating.... there is no doubt

    it's an absolute FACT.
     
  12. BlizzyBlizz

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    You'd be singing a different tune of Wilder got caught. Foh... Let me know when YOU get your facts straight.
     
  13. BlizzyBlizz

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    The question is can you mask it so that WADA doesn't catch you? So far...NO!
     
  14. mirkofilipovic

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    1) Thank you for proving to me how much of an IDIOT you are :lol: There is absolutely NOBODY in the scientific community that believes Anabolic steroids, a dangerous and potent performance enhancing drug is inferior to Meldonium, a drug that was banned after 50 years of being seen as a normal performance enhancer. Anabolic steroids turns a knock out artist in to a more threatening knock out artist, Meldonium is, and currently is still seen as potent a drug as other peformance enhancing drugs that ARE legal. The consensus is, Meldonium does not warrant a ban, as there is no CONCLUSIVE evidence from the WADA or the VADA that it is MORE effective than LEGAL performance enhancers. I am sure that one doctor was simply exaggerating, as evidence is not conclusive, there are even talks of the WADA bringing back Meldonium as a legal drug since there isn't much evidence to warrant a ban.

    2) I already explained to you why Povetkin would take it, the Placebo effect and why athletes take legal performance enhancing drugs.

    3) Give me evidence Takam was not taking Anabolic steroids :deal All elite athletes are guilty of taking some type of performance enhancer, stop living in Lalaland, that is not how the world works. All your favorite boxers, Mayweather, Pacman, etc have or are taking some type of performance enhancer, this is their profession, there is TOO much at stake here for them not to use, this is what they need in order to get paid millions and be the BEST at their occupation. You need to get out in to the real world and see for yourself, if you dont use, do not expect to stay on top. Passing a drug test does not mean you are clean.

    4) Give me evidence that Povetkin is A level when he is on drugs only, this is a five year old assertion, what makes you say this you filthy philistine :lol:

    5) Facts are you are full of ****, Povetkin is head and shoulders above everybody else, you hate him because he kept knocking out all your favorite boxers, and was going to decapitate Wilder if they ever fought :deal

    This drug was banned after 50 years of being legal, because there was hardly any conclusive evidence that it is an unfair substance to use, and was any more effective than other legal performance enhancing drugs. If you honestly think a Meldonium Povetkin is as dangerous as one that is roided with anabolic steroids, seek medical attention :nut
     
  15. mirkofilipovic

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    Nope, I defended Mayweather when he violated doping protocol, if Mayweather is using PED's, so were the other competitors he faced, I will not scrutinize Wilder.