My Initial Thoughts On When The Chelyabinsk Krusher Meets The Cinnamon Boy Of Guadalajara.

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  1. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is it the gap between kovalevs last fight and this fight? It’s pretty close for such a big fight and with his age and drinking.
    I don’t have a solid option on who wins the fight but I hope it’s a fair result, no controversy please
     
  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    While I know this is a bit of a stretch, and it's always not applicable across the board. But, sometimes there is some truth to be found by comparing the punching power of fighters through shared opponents. Especially when they've shared two.

    Okay, I think we can all agree after seeing him pulverize poor Groves and eviscerate N'Dam, Callum Smith is a fairly heavy handed fighter right? Well here he is sharing the ring with teak tough war horse Nikola Sjekloca, he beat and beat and beat on poor Nikola, and to no avail, he just couldn't manage to put him away. Not even in 12 rounds. It was a by the numbers victory, nothing spectacular, in fact, i's quite a dull watch.

    Callum Smith vs. Nikola Sjekloca
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    Here's Anthony Yarde facing Nikola, who had still yet to be stopped. Yarde beat the stuffings out of him, dropped him 2 times and stopped him in the 4th round. He utterly destroyed him. Almost unpleasant to watch.

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    Now onto the second shared opponent of theirs. The thoroughly average punching bag Norbert Nemesapati. Callum pounded on him throughout, finally dropping him in the 6th, forcing his corner to pull him out. It was a beatdown, but a long drawn out one.

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    Here's Yarde absolutely mangling poor Norbert, he took him out in three, in an a borderline hard to watch pulverizing. He dropped him twice in the second round, and his corner mercifully pulled him out at the end of a ghoulishly one sided 3rd.

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    Not saying this is definitive proof or anything, but evidence is pointing in the direction that Yarde is a waaaaaay bigger puncher than Callum Smith.

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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Well here's Callum, who's not close to being the puncher Yarde is, absolutely demolishing Rocky Fielding in all of a whopping 2 minutes and 45 seconds, dropping him three times in the process. Now mind you, Rocky wasn't just standing there letting Callum tee off on him.

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    Now here's Rocky just standing in the phone booth like a moron with Canelo, who was literally teeing off on him, granted, he did drop Rocky 4 times. But in 3 whole rounds.. How pathetic.:D For further evidence of Fielding fragility, Rocky was also seconds away from being brutally KO'd by Christopher Rebrasse, otherwise known as the Paulie Malignaggi of Super Middleweight, who has a grand total of 6 KO's in 34 matches.:qmeparto: I scored it on here. Since the internet has been scrubbed of all footage, here's the only remaining evidence. He had him out on his feet the next round as well.
    https://e2.365dm.com/16/04/2048x1152/rocky-fieldingf-christopher-rebrasse-rebrasse-rocky_3441874.jpg

    Canelo Alvarez vs. Rocky Fielding
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    Now what does this prove? Absolutely nothing definitive. But as Kovalev vs. Canelo draws near..... it is some real food for thought.o_O

    But to speculate.... Canelo at 168 is nowhere near as powerful as Callum Smith, and Callum Smith is nowhere near as powerful as Yarde, and a tired Kovalev ate flush bombs from the very large Yarde, didn't go down and powered through them. Now if Canelo can even get past hat punishing jab of his, who's to say he can come close to hurting him. But another question that needs to be answered is, how hard does Kovalev punch compared to Jacobs and GGG? To hazard a guess.... at 175, probably a lot harder.

    Remember folks, weight divisions exist for a reason.:deal: Smith and Yarde aremore than solid proof of that.:deal:
     
  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    A little more to munch on.... in regards to the power differential between Kovalev and Canelo.

    Non Drained Fonfara teeing off on a shot to hell Kovalev KO4 victim Nathan "KO4Clev" Cleverly for 12 rounds.
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    Here's Non Drained Fonfara going 9 with Kovalev KO3 victim Campillo.
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    A DRAINED to SMW Fonfara teeing off on a non drained full fledged Julio Jr.
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    Canelo teeing off on an even more shot to hell and drained Julio Jr. for 12 ROUNDS.
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    Do you now understand the power difference between Kovalev and Canelo? Yes, even still.
     
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  5. Angler Andrew

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    Callum Smiths a funny one,before the Groves fight I had him down as someone with fairly average power given his size.
    Not telling me Canelo hits as hard as Pascal either?I think with Canelo we see the technique and the flourish he puts on his punchers and in our minds it should add up to more knockouts,truth is it doesn’t.
     
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  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Holy ****, I just rewatched Canelo vs. Fielding for the first time since December. Canelo was clearly gassing by the third round. Jesus.:facepalm::lol: Thankfully for him he'd done enough damage in the first two he was able to get it over with.
     
  7. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I spose Yarde fought Sjekloca 6 or so fights after Smith so somewhere and tear is expected.
    Yarde does have fairly quick hands maybe its just the fact he can get his power to target quicker than Smith
     
  8. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good post. I agree, yarde probably a harder puncher but we don’t know how hard a LHW Canelo will hit. His punches looked like they were bouncing off a CW Chavez. Not sure what it says about how Kovalev handles his punches though.
     
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  9. UKboxingfan

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    I wouldn’t say smith is overly powerful, he’s definitely a puncher at super middle but I’m not sure he would be at light-heavy like Yarde is.

    By some of the logic used, chisora is more powerful than Wilder because of how quickly he KOd Spilka.

    It doesn’t prove that Canelo can’t hurt and beat Kovalev because I suspect he will.
     
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  10. PH|LLA

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    Although it was a very fun fight, watching Yarde fold against Kovalev after laying a beating on him was quite pathetic. Canelo to his credit would gas but not fold.

    Comparing power strictly I would agree Yarde hits harder. Yarde also looked like he was hitting harder than Kovalev for most of the fight.
     
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  11. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    :nononoThat analogy isn't applicable here. The reason Szpilka got taken out by Chisora and Kownacki quicker than he did against Wilder is truly all down to a style clash. Wilder likes to lay back and look for the perfect punch, and if you do that, Szpilka who in the center of the ring is defensively quite sound, the way to take him out and quickly, is pour on the pressure, which Wilder doesn't do. However had Wilder went in there windmilling like a maniac from the opening bell, Artur doesn't see the second round.

    Whereas Smith and Yarde, while they don't fight exactly alike, they both are consistently landing clean shots repeatedly on two fairly defenseless targets from the outside, so that gives a far truer comparison than that one.
     
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  12. NasalSpray

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    This thread made me want to see Yarde Vs Callum @175, I think Yarde could do him
     
  13. Aydamn

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    Kovalev can punch hard and can take a punch. But I don't know much people are taking away from his TKO over Yarde? Was Yard more tired than hurt? He ate big shots fro Kovalev all through out, then what looked like a tap to the head via a jab just laid him out.
     
  14. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yarde emptied the tank like Tunde told him to so had absolutely nothing left and was done. It was a gamble which nearly paid off, he could have won.

    I don’t see Kovalev knocking out Canelo but he needs to be able to hurt him in order to somehow turn the decision his way which is pretty much Canelo’s before the bell has rung.
     
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  15. Dirsspaardis

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    And it made me wonder what a fighter Sjekloca would be if he had better accuracy and more power. Brave chap, lots of heart but that’s about it.