My insider from the NSAC about Floyd...

Also, I can't be bothered to explain this to you, but seriously, don't you realise that X dominated Y who KTFO Z is universally accepted to be just terrible rationale when it comes to analysing boxing? It's not even logic. You can't draw conclusions from stuff like this, you know that right?

 

Please come back, seriously, I've had it with your ****. You troll every topic when you get a whiff of Floyd's ass because you need to climb right in ASAP and defend him. You have above average boxing knowledge but you're an idiot.

 

It is all related.

What he is supposed to do is what anyone does when they realize they were wrong. Recognize the gift they were given and offer terms that fit the bargaining position.

He has proved it. Anyone who knows anything about boxing knows it. He easily beat JMM who gave Pac fits. He just beat Mosley who Pac wouldn't fight. Who beat Margarito. Who does Pac fight? Margarito? What? Seriously? When the spread comes out in Vegas then you will see who is the "better" fighter.

He is saying absolutely nothing because that is what they agreed would happen. Don't discuss it in the press to ruin the fight. Guess what Team Pac is doing? Discussing it in the press, ruining the fight, and setting up a Top Rank Plan B fight with a fighter who got caught cheating and KTFO.

No. Margarito was caught cheating and KTFO in his last WW contest. His last fight was against a limited fighter at 154. What has he done to deserve this fight when you have Berto and Collazo at WW and you have Bradley and Alexander at LWW. If you want to pick on a 154 pounder? Why not get Williams? He ALSO beat Margarito.

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Mayweather will fight as soon as the contract is right. Trust, any contract that Arum is in the press yapping about is NOT right.

 

Oh yes the hell you can. Why in the hell have tournaments? Styles do make fights, but everyone can fight at this level.

Why is Pac CONSTANTLY going after guys who just got KTFO? Why?

 

I am back. I don't care what you had it with. I was here the whole time smacking your silly ass down.

You are damned right I climb in here to defend him. Why? Because you Pac fans are complete morons. As soon as one of you make a LOGICAL criticism? I will be silent. They do exist:

-- Mayweather is ducking Williams

 

You're telling me that after he just sold out Dallas Cowboys stadium he should come to the table with Floyd saying hey how about 60/40 in your favour? Please, Floyd? I have a feeling you know nothing about negotiation. Not just because of this, but because if you did know anything, then you would realise that is something Manny is showing he is clearly open to doing, whereas Floyd is nowhere to be found. (Not negotiating).

First of all, I used to make a living betting on sports. I can tell you that the Vegas spread doesn't mean **** other than who the public percieves to be better.

I guess Pavlik is far better than Martinez since he opened up at almost 1/2 betting fave. **** you again.

Second of all, what you're saying is nowhere near conclusive. If it meant ANYTHING, I could do the exact same thing (Pac KTFO Hatton who gave Floyd 11 tough rounds, Pac stopped DLH who gave Floyd 12 tough rounds, Pac KTFO Cotto who Floyd wouldn't fight, etc) but it doesn't. And by "anyone who knows anything about boxing knows it", I guess people like Bert Sugar and Larry Merchant, myriad trainers within the sport, myriad journalists, everyone who consider Pacquiao greater in their opinion, know NOTHING about boxing. Come on, you ****ing child.

So Floyd says to Manny don't discuss it in the press. Manny is supposed to:

a) say ok, Floyd. I gotta cross the road to get back to my car is that cool? or
b) do what the **** he wants because Floyd does not own him.

This is the best part, IMO. First of all, don't strawman me, I said nothing about Margarito.

Then you bring Berto, Collazo, Bradley and Alexander to the table over Margarito who you just disparaged? You must be kidding. Berto who just beat a Quintana so far past his prime that he can't even see it anymore? Who, through your logic was KTFO by the guy Pac just KTFO? Bradley who beat the godly Lamont Peterson? Alexander who beat the titan Urango? THESE credentials? I agree on Williams, I think Pacquiao SHOULD fight Williams. But what the **** did I say? Whoever is a credible threat to Pacquiao at a weight he can feasibly make, or if you can be fair to him, that he can't even feasibly make but does.

You're a hater, man. And a Floyd apologist, and you know it. Everyone knows it. You contribute nothing but venom.

 

The funny thing is I'm not even a Pac fan, per se. You ask me which guy would I prefer to be, whose skills would I prefer to have, I'll take Mayweather all day every day. I'd take Pac's attitude though. Neither of them are in my top five favourite fighters. I'm just tired of coming on here all the time and listening to you spout garbage to defend Floyd who does nothing to deserve it, save for possess some incredible skills and put in a lot of hard work in the gym.

 

Does Sr supply you with whatever you are on?

 

fixed. bald head slick is the new ellerbe. can't you tell.

ellerbe is bald head slick.

 

Cotto beat Mosley who beat Margarito who beat Cotto

I curse you for making me have to type that out when it is so god damn obvious.

 

Just sold out Dallas? Did you actually check the gate revenue? He sold out a bunch of cheap seats. It was a GARBAGE fight in gate AND PPVs for a "mega-star". Especially one that just turned out the biggest WW fight in boxing history. And where did you get 60/40 from? Your ass. Here you go giving an insane argument to feel as though you have represented a "valid" positions.

Manny isn't open to anything. If he was? This fight would be DONE because everything he is hoping for now was offered before. The only thing that has changed is that he is even LESS deserving now than he was the first time he was offered. Wonder why contracts aren't signed? :think

Loser.

Anyway, people don't like to lose their money. The spread, though not perfect, is a good guage.

It isn't always right, but more often than not it is. Anyway Pavlik lost because he is a drunk and he team was crap. Unfortunately, unless he makes some serious decisions, he will probably never be anything again. It has little to do with his talent and more to do with his surroundings. Then again you don't really follow boxing.

Nothing is conclusive in boxing idiot. This isn't math.

Pac took on Hatton, AFTER Mayweather knocked Hatton out. Pac stopped the dried up shell that Mayweather refused to fight because he knew the man would be a shell of himself. Cotto had ZERO chance against Mayweather and anyone with a lick of boxing sense would tell you so. Arum knew too. That is why he kept Cotto away. Just like... Manny! :scaredas:

Screw both of those old wind bags. Myriad my ass. When it is all said and done? The world knows that Mayweather is the better fighter. Now Pac needs to get in the ring and get exposed for the FRAUD he is.

No you idiot those were Bob Arum's words. Do you even follow boxing? You are so busy trying to sound intelligent you sound like a fool.

You say everything about Margarito because Pac choosing Margarito as a viable opponent speaks to his integrity as a boxer and your integrity as a fan. Pac is a fraud and no matter how crappy the fight he will do ANYTHING to protect that fraudulant image.

You are damned right. What the hell has Margarito done to deserve a title shot and a mega fight? Get caught cheating and KTFO? No he is a Rot Stank fighter who will probably take a dive and definitely won't ask for blood testing. Does the "no drug testing" policy from the Clottey fight ring a bell?

Any of the guys I listed and Lamont Peterson kick Pac's ass. Somehow, Pac seems to avoid these fights. :think

Easiest way to get a fight with Pac is to get KTFO.

I am a hater. I hate Pac and his fans. I own it. He is a cheat and a fraud. The thing is this. I will back up everything I say with rational points of view. REALITY is venom to you *******s.

Manny "The Concussion Hunter" Pacquiao is a complete fraud.:deal

 

No you dumb ass. Cotto beat Mosley in a COMPETITIVE decision. Cotto was later DESTROYED by Margarito. Margarito was then DESTROYED by Mosley. The last man standing was Mosley.

Now what would any self respecting boxer do? Beat the guy who came out on top, Mosley. Instead, like the fraud he is, Pac chooses the weakest link in Cotto. Just like he is choosing the weakest link in Margarito.

 

. at least you have the guts to admit it.

complete fraud? :rofl you mean void? whose last two fights were against grandpas.

pac is a cheat? like coming in 146 for a 144 fight. :|

 

That statement alone makes me hate you.

-- Pac openly cheats on his wife with television stars and dates them in public while his wife cries at mass.

-- Pac drug tests weight loss contestants in an event he is holding but doesn't have the integrity to drug test himself.

-- Pac attempts to assasinate political rivals using vans from his wife's rental company. Implicate the same wife you cheat on?

-- Pac talks about doing it for the fans when he won't drug test for the fans.

-- Pac talks about Mayweather fighting for money, but he doesn't when he was going to cancel the ODLH and Hatton fights over single digit percentage points.

You are disgusting.

 

by fighting a 39 year old mosley? :|:|