My insider from the NSAC about Floyd...

oh ****:rofl:rofl we have a winner!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Damned right I do.

Yes. A COMPLETE fraud. Right, remember that Pac wouldn't fight either of those same grandpa's

Yes Pac is a cheat. That is why he won't drug test. That isn't cheating that is called missing a stipulation and paying for it. Learn the difference.

 

It is true.

If you like Pac's boxing style? Fine.

Don't get on here talking about what a wonderful person he is. The PI press knows different.

 

you truly are a moron of the greatest proportions.

pac fought grandpa jmm when Jmm was still 31 years old. in his prime when the likes of EM and Mab were avoiding him.

pbf fought grandpa jmm when he was a 36 year old lightweight who was asked to go up to welter. :deal

 

The same Mosley who held a WW title by defeating Margarito who... Beat Cotto into dust.

Cotto didn't even have a belt. Arum arranged for Clottey's belt to be stolen. Then had Clottey take a dive.

It will all be obvious when you see Manny in the ring with Mayweather. Then you will see that Manny is a complete fraud.

 

sure and now you believe fishwives tales.

ey, better for pac for **** around than for floyd gay rumors right? :rofl

 

Mayweather is a very successful man and is the face of boxing! He saw the way yall gave Manny a pass for ducking the first time.People said its his pride he doesnt have to give in to Mayweather and so on. Floyd doesnt want to fight twice this year and feels like he doesnt have to give in to the November 13th date to fight this year. He has pride to and feels he will fight when he's ready just like Manny did. Manny need a few more months to prepare for Floyd and he got them. Floyd is in the same situation now.

 

sure sure. with pbf having height and size advantage, of course i can see pbf winning.

yup pbf defeated mosley who last fought when again?

 

No you just don't like the truth. Mayweather would have whipped him WORSE had he fought him earlier. If you don't know that then YDKSAB.

It was a tune up you clown. It was better to fight a guy going up than a guy coming down like ODLH.

 

**** it. Take this one. To be honest, I truly can't think of anything to say to this. Take it.

So Pavlik is a better boxer than Martinez but Ohio made him lose? Find me one person who will agree with you on this. One.

And I'm not even sure you realise you just voided your own argument in admitting that the spread is not perfect. Just two posts ago you were using the potential spread in Floyd's favour of being able to tell me what is what.

Again, not sure if you realise you just voided another of your own arguments. Nothing is conclusive. But apparently by dominating Marquez and Mosley, Floyd proved he is greater than Pacquiao. For everyone to see. Anybody who knows anything about boxing knows it.

For future reference: when you said "proved", that is pretty much as conclusive as you can get.

Who exactly is "the world" in your mind? All boxing fans who don't consider Pacquiao greater than Mayweather? Is that "the world"? Does your geography map not contain, for example, the Philippines?

Again: not sure why you are still strawmanning this Margarito thing. I never mentioned him until you did. I also never proposed him as a viable fight for Pacquiao. Not until you brought up that he should instead be fighting Bradley, Alexander, Berto, Collazo... In which case, no, you are wrong. Margarito has done more to deserve a shot than any of those guys. Unless your criteria for "deserving" a fight with Pacquiao is **** I dunno, not having a mullet. Margarito has beaten several top tier WW in his career, cheating or not, Timothy Bradley for example, has beaten Lamont ****ing Peterson. Let that sink in, dude. Lamont ****ing Peterson.

Ok, so I think this is probably the best place to end this thread. You clearly don't know what the **** you are talking about. Please don't ever forget you said that Lamont Peterson would kick Pacquiao's ass.

 

Now "he big I small?" You Pac fans are a joke. Is Pac a great WW or is he a fraud? Which one? If he weighs 147 he needs to beat 147 pound fighters.

When he beat the brakes off of Margarito who beat Cotto.

Pac is a joke. The least he could do is fight Berto or Mosley. Instead he fights Margarito who is fighting at 154! When sorry Pac was too scared to fight Yuri Foreman?!? Pac is a fraud!

 

You know so much about boxing. So let's do a lifetime ban bet. We will open a poll and if more people vote Pac would beat Lamont then you **** off and never come back. If Lamont wins I will leave. What do you say?

 

In addition you can choose to decline my challenge and accept that you have been talking out of your ****ing ass.

 

I know you can't. You barely have a leg to stand on anywhere else as this is the basis for the whole damned argument. Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 or a 14 day testing window. FRAUD!

No moron. Pavlik may have lost that fight in a perfect world. The problem is that Pavlik has faced and defeated guys who probably were better than Martinez (prime Taylor, Hopkins). Unfortunately Kelly has issues outside of the ring that were going to show themselves in the ring. Research his life outside of the ring.

No I didn't. Nothing is absolute in boxing. Especially not on top level boxing. All of those guys have a puncher's chance, Pac included. Fact is that nobody in their right mind thinks Pac will win. You want the truth? See what Stewart says.

Nothing is conclusive, but you start to see a pattern and can only act on the pattern. You aren't promised tomorrow, but you keep making plans don't you? Why? Conclusive evidence you will be here tomorrow? No. All available evidence points to the likelihood you will be. So like I said, anyone who knows anything about boxing knows... FMJ will most likely kick Pac's can. It ain't conclusive, but it is highly likely. :thumbsup

No. We are not talking about a subject that can be proven conclusively until we put boxers in controlled environments monitoring all inputs and outputs. Boxers live in the real world where any number of external factors can affect the outcome in the ring.

Hahaha, boxing fans and people who consider Pac a national hero are completely different. Any person in PI who really follows boxing? They are 99.9% sure Pac is going to get his ass kicked. Your granny or mother? They probably say Pac wins every time.

No. Arum mentioned him you moron. It speaks to the lengths that Manny and Top Rank will go to to perpetuate this fraud. My criteria for "deserving" a fight is not getting KTFO in one of your last three bouts. It also might include not having your whole career called into question due to cheating?

Dude like I said, I think Pac is a COMPLETE FRAUD. If he drug tests he will be a nobody. Watch. Remember me when you watch the fight. All those guys kick his ass.

Remember me when you see Pac fighting CLEAN. Know that somewhere I am laughing at you.

 

Shut up idiot. Pac has ducked and dodged his way right up the ranks.

I will take that bet when Pac does USADA testing for his bouts. My guess is CLEAN? Anyone who is top 5 140 up and has some speed beats the breaks off of him.

Say it with me... FRAUD!