Wow. I will accept when Pac accepts USADA drug testing. Hell he had no problem FORCING participants in his weight loss challenge to. Pac is a complete hypocrite and fraud.
What bet? This site is a bastion of *******s. Why would I bet that? I gain a perverse joy from cracking heads like yours. As you watch the fight every word I said to you will start to ring true. I will gain joy when I see you back on here with your bib, fork, knife, and a GIGANTIC plate of crow. Then again you never cared about boxing. You will disappear when Manny does. Notice how many of your fellow Manny fans have low post counts like you. They are here today and gone tomorrow.
Quick question: who deserves a fight with Pacquiao more: a) Antonio Margarito b) Vyacheslav Senchenko I expect the answer to be hilarious. Anyway, here is a little cliff-notes version of our argument for people who don't have the time to read it all through: [On Mayweather proving beyond doubt by beating Mosley, he is greater than Pacquiao] "He has proved it. Anyone who knows anything about boxing knows it." "Nothing is conclusive in boxing idiot. This isn't math." "We are not talking about a subject that can be proven conclusively until we put boxers in controlled environments monitoring all inputs and outputs." [On the spread opening in favour of Pavlik, though he eventually lost to Martinez] "Pavlik lost because he is a drunk and he team was crap. It has little to do with his talent and more to do with his surroundings." "No moron. Pavlik may have lost that fight in a perfect world." You might notice that I forgot to tag which of us said which statement in this obvious argument. However it is an easy fix because everything I just noted was said by bald_head_slick. That's right. None of those quotes are mine. Anyway, are we on for this lifetime ban bet or what?
You read where I said I'm not a Pacquiao fan, right? Let's take the bet to the Classic forum then. Or are those guys all *******s too?
Look at the rankings. See who is actually fighting at WW (Margarito isn't), wasn't KTFO in any of his last 3 fights or caught cheating and not Top Rank... then take your pick. Like I said there are a ton of interesting fights at 147 and 140. Instead he picks a cheating, recently knocked out 154 pounder. Why not Martinez or Williams? Oh that is right they haven't been "softened". Wow. You are an idiot. Like most stupid people you think rigidity in thought makes you look smart. Like I said, when we are talking boxing we are talking humans. Always, never, and other absolute terms are usually not technically correct, but when speaking we use them. It is upon the listener to have the common sense to filter the input. You obviously don't. I guess when someone says its hot as hell you take it literally. Mayweather is greater than Pac. You will see when Pac gets the guts to drug test. Pavlik did lose because his life and corner were crap. Saying that contributed to or was a major factor in his loss still doesn't mean that he would win in a perfect world and he did everything right. There is no contradicton there. See that nifty little "may" in therea? Your simple mind is so rigid you can't see the nuance. Hell no. You will see what a moron you are when Pac steps in that ring. Make sure you email me. I want to see the hurt in your heart.
I also love how you idiots ALWAYS claim "I am not a Pacquiao fan..." Shut up. I am not taking anything anywhere, but taking this argument to your ass. Like I said, Pac has been ducking and dodging speed and accuracy his whole career to take on plodding fighters. Nothing you or anyone else tells me will change my mind that Pac is a fraud. Hell I think at 140 prime Zab would whip his ass too!
I didn't and don't use them. And so basically, you admit you were wrong then? The stupid thing about this whole argument is that our disagreement seems to be over who is greater, Pacquiao or Mayweather. That I feel Pac is, and you feel May is, and will prove it once, as you repeatedly mentioned, Pac comes clean and takes a test. Only, the reality is that I never once over the course of our dialogue said that Manny Pacquiao will beat Floyd Mayweather if they fight. In fact I'm pretty sure that I never even said Pacquiao is greater. Which is basically what you keep trying to prove I'm wrong about. My problem with you is that you are a ****ing idiot with his head up Floyd Mayweather's ass. Just remember you said Lamont Peterson beats Manny Pacquiao. Let me know when you want to man up and take that lifetime ban bet. Seems like I'm in Mayweather's shoes and you're in Pacquiao's doesn't it? So why don't you prove you're right and take up the challenge?
Again, it's hard for me to argue with you when you keep attacking me for things that I never said. Where did I say Pac has taken on many fast and accurate fighters? And hah, so funny that you would bring up Zab. My all time favourite fighter. But no, prime Zab would whip 3 years ago Manny but current Manny withstands Zab's first five or so rounds and then breaks him down and makes him quit. He oh **** it what's the point. You don't even engage our arguments... In the next post you'll probably criticise me for prefering Cookies and Cream to Rocky Road or some ****.
You entered a Pac/May thread. Logic is pretty weak on most of ESB. In here it is completely, unashamedly abandoned for fan boy worship. Logic, self respect, dignity and just about everything else they have is sacrificed at the alter of their respective heroes.
No one ever forced them to take the fight, it's amazing how you believe **** from a ESB poster instead of real ****