My New Article on the Number of Current Champs in their 30's

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  1. southpaw1974

    southpaw1974 Well-Known Member Full Member

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  2. Local Stigmatic

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    Good article.

    The widespread use of PEDS in sports has meant athletes can fight well into their 30's now and maintain peak performance. Mayweather is the poster boy of an athlete who uses PEDS and not showing any signs of regression or ageing in their mid to late 30's.

    The fact that a boxer can maintain a high level performance twinned with them having years more of experience means they're a very formidable opponent.
     
  3. southpaw1974

    southpaw1974 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thanks man! I guess it's safe to assume you voted in the poll and chose "performance enhancing drugs". :D
     
  4. Local Stigmatic

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    Unless a boxer is willing to be tested for 365 days a year without notice or warning then you may as well point the finger at them especially as in Mayweathers case where there's no obvious sign of deterioration for a man who is 37 years old with the wear and tear accummulated from over 20 years of boxing training, sparring and fighting.
     
  5. southpaw1974

    southpaw1974 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yep, and in the case of Floyd the Hauser article about him failing 3 PED tests makes him look like a huge hypocrite. I know he is super disciplined like Hopkins but on top of the point you made, neither one of them have exhibited veracious qualities in the past. Nothing would surprise me in boxing and sports in general these days.
     
  6. Local Stigmatic

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    Well the three tests that Mayweather failed are essentially the same as what Peterson failed on, Testosterone boosters that give the fighter sustained stamina, sharpness and alertness. Mayweather just happened to have a "doctors notes" for them and USADA just hushed the whole thing up.

    Vegas is the only place in America that always T boosting although even the UFC recently put a stop to the pratice as all their fighters were doing it.

    If you're a boxer who is a resident of Vegas, it's like 99% chance they're based there for the reason because it's also the place to get easy access to the latest and best Performance enhancing drugs.
     
  7. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    One loss "ruins careers" and turns off the fans so much nowadays that guys must take the slow and easy way up.
     
  8. HellSpawn86

    HellSpawn86 "My heart goes out to you!" Full Member

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    Interesting article, but it's all hearsay really. You forgot a big component and that is activity level, which also should have been a poll option. Chavez is probably one of the last of the elite fighters to have over 60-80 fights while he was on the p4p list. Robinson and others had much more. The top 10 p4p average today is just over 40, many only fighting 1-2 times a year.
     
  9. southpaw1974

    southpaw1974 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thanks and great point! I didn't even think of that.
     
  10. southpaw1974

    southpaw1974 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You are correct and I have brought that point up many times. I hate the fact that a loss has become such a big deal in boxing and has led to boxers and their promoters feeling a need to protect their undefeated records. MMA is where boxing used to be. The best fight the best and a couple losses (even by KO) are no big deal and don't lead to the fighter being written off by the fans and pressured to retire. Also, certain fighters like Floyd have a style that is boring to the casual fan (essential for PPV revenue) and thus by losing or facing a serious threat to that undefeated record can be devestating to their marketability. Boring+losing=smaller purses.
     
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    Yeah, the porpose of the article wasn't to single out potential PED users but rather to be centered around the fact that there are more top fighters over 30 than ever before and to suggest reasons and leave it up to the fans to vote. Thanks for reading it!
     
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    What exactly is "hearsay"? I was making stating facts and stats and showing how the average age of champions is higher than ever and simply listed potential reasons as to why and left it up to the fans/readers to vote. I am not pointing fingers and didn't even state exactly why I think it is, although I think it's most likely a combination of everything I listed in the article/poll at the bottom as a potential reason.
     
  13. STB

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    Also bare in mind that fighters dont

    1.Fight as often

    2.Medical checks to be allowed to fight are more stringent

    3.Knowledge of training and nutrition is superior

    4. Medical science has improved. Injuries that used to end careers or curtail them are not fixable.

    All those things combined allow fighters to fight longer.

    Thats before we get onto the PED issue
     
  14. southpaw1974

    southpaw1974 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I mentioned all but #1 in the article. I have now included that point in my article and added that choice in the poll below it.
     
  15. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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